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1337h4kor
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Posted: 1 Oct 2007
17:39 GMT
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I believe that it's sad that the number of people who are interested in programming on the calculator is dwindling. Also all schools down here in VA, don't teach math any more. They teach 'How to use the calculator.' This allows them to not have to think what so ever. I think that it's sad that 98% of the people can't solve the quadratic equation by hand. Very few of them can even do any sort of math without a calculator. I believe that you shouldn't be allowed to use a calculator in math class until Pre Calculus. They start using a TI 83 in the 6th grade. I believe that it's very sad. So are you guys with me.

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Hydraliskisback
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Posted: 1 Oct 2007
18:47 GMT
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thats very sad
but calcs are awesome!
they should teach both ways
so theres middleground

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Zachary940
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Posted: 2 Oct 2007
08:54 GMT
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At my school they are starting to lean over to the calc side, but they still teach you the old fashion way first. That way you understand what you are doing rather then just doing it.

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1337h4kor
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Posted: 2 Oct 2007
16:30 GMT
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That's how i always learned. I just moved here last year. I loved doing math by hand. The only thing i don't like doing by hand is 3 equations, 3 unknown.

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Hydraliskisback
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Posted: 2 Oct 2007
17:33 GMT
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my math teacher teaches us how to do both. which is my excuse to be programming on my calc all period long. i always miss the whole lesson. XD

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1337h4kor
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Posted: 2 Oct 2007
21:03 GMT
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Yeah in Trig that's about what i do. At first i program during class and then then I actually pay attention the last ten minutes of class. My current school is on block system. Which means every class is 90 minutes long.

Everyone else in class is a bunch of idiots. I mean honestly they didn't know how to freaking derive, tell graphs of functions by just looking at function. I already know almost everything he says so i just sit there not listening to a word he says. It's worked pretty well so far. My current grade is a 92.5%.


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ryantmer
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Posted: 2 Oct 2007
21:12 GMT
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Math here has three levels (per grade): Pure, Applied, and Essentials. Essentials is exactly what it sounds like, Applied is all the course material of Pure but just using the calculator, and Pure teaches both calc and non-calc ways of doing things. That way, people who plan on having math degrees or similar do Pure, to really understand what they're doing, whereas Applied is just so people can do it, but don't necessarily have to understand what they're doing. And the kids in Essentials (at my school, at least) are all stoner dickheads who just quit while they're not too far behind.

That last sentence was unnecessary, I know, but I got my bike stolen yesterday, and am royalled pissed at the moment -.-"
1337h4kor
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Posted: 3 Oct 2007
15:44 GMT
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wow that sounds like an interesting way of going on about things.

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ryantmer
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Posted: 3 Oct 2007
17:14 GMT
Total Posts: 692
It's very Canadian.
Hydraliskisback
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Posted: 4 Oct 2007
19:12 GMT
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youre in canada, eh?

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ryantmer
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Posted: 4 Oct 2007
20:22 GMT
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Always have been...

*sigh, fine*

"Eh."
Hydraliskisback
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Posted: 5 Oct 2007
15:54 GMT
Total Posts: 583
lol i say eh and im not canadian
i actually originally meant that in all seriousness then i realized what it said
:3
but yeah
never knew that

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1337h4kor
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Posted: 5 Oct 2007
17:37 GMT
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Ok then how many people on this site are actually from america?

*Raises Hand*

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Hydraliskisback
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Posted: 5 Oct 2007
20:52 GMT
Total Posts: 583
im included in that
and yet i still say eh

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gulyman
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Posted: 6 Oct 2007
14:43 GMT
Total Posts: 144
Yaaah, Go Canada.
Land of beaver jerky and dog sled.
So, has anyone seen the show Talking to Americans?
1337h4kor
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Posted: 6 Oct 2007
20:23 GMT
Total Posts: 612
No. The only Canadian esque show I watch is Red Green Show. Well that's Canadian I think maybe. I mean the screen play seems Canadian. But what do i know. Has anyone here heard the song Canadian Idiot by Weird Al. I think that the song is funny but I highly doubt that canada is really like that. The only part of Canada that I've ever been to is Ottawa. I mean everyone seemed really nice.

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ryantmer
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Posted: 7 Oct 2007
09:21 GMT
Total Posts: 692
Yes, Red Green is canadian. Yes, I have heard the song. No, most of it is not true. Well, it is in the same way that American Idiot by Green Day is true, i.e. it's exaggerated.

And no, I am certainly not from Ottawa.
1337h4kor
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Posted: 7 Oct 2007
12:26 GMT
Total Posts: 612
Ok well that's very interesting then. I went there on a scout trip back when i was eleven. Woot I traded all sort of patches whilst there. It was a very odd experience. I mean we spent the entire day there. The coolest part of the trip was when i went over that bridge. Has any here heard of a city with a odder name than Cheboygan, in case no one here's heard of it. It's in Michigan. Why does canada have such a great programmer. I mean Kévin Ouellet is like the greatest programmer that I've ever seen even though he used asm libraries. His was the very first game that I ever put on my calculator and it was because of him that I first wanted to start programming on the calc.


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I wish i could swim in the sea of probabilty but once during my life.
1337h4kor
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Posted: 7 Oct 2007
12:30 GMT
Total Posts: 612
Ok well that's very interesting then. I went there on a scout trip back when i was eleven. Woot I traded all sort of patches whilst there. It was a very odd experience. I mean we spent the entire day there. The coolest part of the trip was when i went over that bridge. Has any here heard of a city with a odder name than Cheboygan, in case no one here's heard of it. It's in Michigan. Why does canada have such a great programmer. I mean Kévin Ouellet is like the greatest programmer that I've ever seen even though he used asm libraries. His was the very first game that I ever put on my calculator and it was because of him that I first wanted to start programming on the calc. As far as I can remember he is from Quebec.


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