| Author | Comment |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
17:21 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Okay...we all know this site (as with others) cansors their games...which makes sense and I aggree with censoring...but how come a game called "Kill harry Potter" is refused when a game called "sniper" that in the discription says you kill harry potter is allowed? |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
18:06 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | As Barrett said, a part of it was possible copyright infrigement. We can not tell for sure if it is serious or not, but we are not willing to take any risk. Although censorship was mentioned, it wasn't the decision factor for removing the file as the game didn't really possess any violence or such that would be considered bad. Anyway, in this case it was copyright problem and as we know it, that could turn out really bad. We've already had trouble with copyright and were lucky to get out clean and by any means, we do not want it to repeat and thus we do everyhitng we can to do so.
Also, note that this removal had nothing to do with us being biased or not wanting calcfreaks files as some may think. He still has two files in our archive. It also shows that no one can break site's policy, not even our own mods and admins. We try to keep the site clean and anything that does slip into the archive, will be dealt with as soon as we find out. I don't want anyone to take our actions as offending, just try to understand what we're trying to do here and why.
Thanks.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
18:27 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | crap, The game wasn't that great. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
18:48 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | the difference between sniper and kill harry potter is that the sniper game isn't just random killing of innocent people. (at least not implied in the title). Kill harry potter is killing for the sake of killing. if it were "kill bin laden" i might allow it since the average person thinks bin laden should be dead.
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-Barrett A |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
19:04 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | i don't think that we should differentiate between people that we think bad and good. that is still a matter of opinion and thus not a very good reason to justify a file removal. despite that, file still could have possibly violate the copyright and that's the main reason for removal, other small reasons are secondary and are less important.
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 25 Oct 2003
19:56 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | harry potter is 100% innocent.
the email i got from blayn scott a while ago as to what was appropriate and not specifically said "killing for killing would not work... games such as Grand Theft Auto are innapropriate while war games where you are at least justified in killing someone is appropriate"
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-Barrett A |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 26 Oct 2003
09:07 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | yet, war games are often rated for mature audience due to violence and their general content nature. besides, what means of killing were employed in that game anyway? i mean, while working at video games department i've seen people who wouldn't get their kid a super mario game because they think its too violent and killing turtles in the game is wrong. oh yes, i'm also not too sure if HP is 100% innocent since he's bugging the crap out of everyone and seems to appear in places where you'd want to see him last. most video games based in killing or somehow defeating the bad guys and there's not always a justification for that. all that differs is that method of killing. oh well, if you find the game content inappropriate, then be it.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 27 Oct 2003
18:57 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Well, I think people need to know what they're getting into.I play BattleField1942, and the ERSB notes that the rating T, for teen, could change during online play. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 27 Oct 2003
19:57 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | I always feel teh games are rated ridiculously high anyways. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 28 Oct 2003
10:34 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | calcfreak, if you look at the fine print, the rating is more of an average; it says that the actuall content can change during gameplay. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 28 Oct 2003
14:38 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | yeah, if there was like 2 drops of blood when people got shot, the rating would automatically go up to mature. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 28 Oct 2003
14:58 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | There are different types of blood by the boards definitions. Animated and pixelated blood, the kind in Halo (XBox), and anywhere in between. |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 1 Nov 2003
15:14 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Yeah, like in Carnovores? (Anyone play that?) If you mess around with the graphics, the game rating can go from E to M, but of course, they don't tell you how to change the graphics. |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 1 Nov 2003
15:15 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Oh, and I just realized what allynfosejr is saying, it says kill Harry Potter in the game description!! What the heck? Now I'm really pissed off.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 1 Nov 2003
20:45 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Your mood doesn't matter to the site, if you want to be constructive, put up a suggestion or advice in the site section. |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 1 Nov 2003
21:07 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | But,it's still on topic. I am experessing my concern.
Get rid of Sniper, Harry Potter is copyrighted. That or change the description. Everyone should have the SAME rules, not just me.
By the way, I'm glad that others are starting to feel the effects of copyrights, like Halo is going bye unless the name is changed. . . .
About time.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 2 Nov 2003
01:05 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Still, mario, tetris, asteroids, and FF:TOM, I would not want remove. That is primarily due to the fact I feel that those games are some of the best calculator games. Not only that, Chrono Fantasy uses high amounts of copyrighted graphics. At least they weren't programmed with any parts from the original game code (and Halo definately wasn't, or else a) it wouldn't run, b) it wouldn't suck so hard).
Maybe this is a double standard, but even if we make slight copyright violations, we will have done a much better job of serving the calculator community games with those games. Kill Harry Potter (although I have never played it), gives me the impression of a game that if not on this one site would not have a large affect on overall game quality and user experience. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 2 Nov 2003
09:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | ok, the reason kill harry potter was removed had nothing to do with copyrighted anything.
if you forget all of your political correctness, it's easy to decide which games are kill-for-fun and which games are kill-for-the-general-well-being-of-the-world.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 2 Nov 2003
10:53 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Well, okay, if you sayso, it makes me feel alot better. *Sigh*. But, I will put my game on my site, and let my "fans" download it form there. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 2 Nov 2003
12:29 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | "Still, mario, tetris, asteroids, and FF:TOM, I would not want remove. That is primarily due to the fact I feel that those games are some of the best calculator games. Not only that, Chrono Fantasy uses high amounts of copyrighted graphics."
As I mentioned in an earier post in a different thread, those games are old and the companies probably won't mind if we use the names. Plus, if the original game carries little status in the market or socially, no one will be concerned by the copyright issues. Also, in most of the readme files there are disclaimers about the game. As for CF they have a distinct disclaimer in multiple places in their description and gameplay. If you can understand the point I'm trying to make, then the double standard will be seen as fair and unbiased. If you can't ask someone else to explain it since this is the best I can do. |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 3 Nov 2003
18:02 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Yes, okay, I understand.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 3 Nov 2003
19:51 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Anyways, I made a long post in General Game Disscusion, on how you can get my game, go read it. |
