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allynfolksjr
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
13:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I'm not sure if you can do anything about this, but one new program has 7 downloads but 8 users have rated it...

Does that make sense to you?
(REF:http://www.calcgames.org/cgi-bin/files/files.cgi?ID=338)
zkostik
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
13:54 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Yes, I've noticed this already and to be honest, this isn't a first case like that. Yesterdays it has 3 dls and 8 ratings. We can't really regulate this in any way though. Unless we require people to be logged in to download files (so we can keep track who downloaded files).

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Barrett
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
13:55 GMT
Total Posts: 1676
the author probably has many usernames...

we could have it record IP addresses as well (like downloading does). a vote would only count if the username AND ip address are unique to the rest.

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allynfolksjr
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
14:05 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
The IP logging/matching would work, you can get around that, but it would stop most...

I just find it amusing that the person who did that was so stupid that they didn't think to make the number of ratings less than the downloads...
spiral
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
14:05 GMT
Total Posts: 958
we can't really fix it either, since we don't know which ones of those extra good/bad votes is real.
zkostik
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
18:39 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
its not votes by the same person, its just that anyone could vote w/t actually downloading a file.
this is funny, but here's who have rated this file:
338|calculatorfreakCG,allynfolksjr,Barrett,largeandlarger01,poodlelove
r911,calcfreakCG,confused08,Mariolover,spiral

okay people, who actually downloaded and tried it and who just rated it? well, we can probably not count calcfreak since its his file...though, its a common thing for authors to rate their own files and sometimes even review, which i find kind of funny to see.

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spiral
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
18:43 GMT
Total Posts: 958
hehe, i rated it, but only after allyn pointed it out.
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
18:46 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I rated it too after i saw it...
hmmm...calcfreak rated it 3 times...(poodellover is his too)...

does it also tell you when the files were rated and/or the IP addresses?


[Edited by allynfolksjr on 20-Jan-04 03:47]
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 19 Jan 2004
19:10 GMT
Total Posts: 958
i'd say 90% of the files on calcgames have too high scores, and then the remaining 10% have too low scores (SAS is a 7?? Some aweful games have better ratings).
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 19 Jan 2004
19:24 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Well, I looked at all of the profiles of who rated it...all appear legit, except for what I already noted,

But largeandlarger01 also lives where calcfreak does...if they goto the same school, then maybe largeandlarger didn't have to download the file.

BTW, why did you post twice Z?
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 21 Jan 2004
20:48 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
well, now it's normalized somewhat...at least the downloads are more than the ratings. :-)
zkostik
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Posted: 22 Jan 2004
14:17 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
well, ratings are always overall. like most sites say, don't base your choice completely on ratings. as we know it there are always lame and mean people somewhere. since here at CG ratings are merely a thing that people can have fun with and don't really make any file stand out, i personally don't really make a big deal out of it. though, having more than one account isn't a right thing. as fas as i logging for rating, we don't have that. i have decided not to associate ratings with users too so that people (admins?) don't get upset about other's ratings and just to keep this private. though, if lameness persists i might as well decide to incorporate thise features into the system.

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