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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 6 Feb 2004
20:04 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Okay, yet another experiment rolls out.
Now we've decided to give Google AdSense a spin. Their ads don't looks as annoying since they're text ads, and guess what, text ads means we can customize their color and style!
Anyway, please click those ads from time to time so that we can earn some money for the site. Also let us know what you think about the new ad program and if you have any suggestions.
Btw, the ad content is based on the site content so you'll mostly see game and sports related things. Which is a good thing.
Thanks.
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BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 6 Feb 2004
21:05 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | Seems like a good plan. As long as bad stuff doesn't pop up...
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 7 Feb 2004
17:05 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Hey Z-I see you considered my idea. :) I like the google ads! Especially the dark blue ones I'm seeing right now! I've also heard they are very partical when I was looking for reliable ad services, (long story), and, best of all-Google has appropiate, small ads. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 7 Feb 2004
17:59 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | they're not too bad, i don' think espn or money loans has much to do with the site, but oh well. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 7 Feb 2004
18:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah calcfreak, thanks for the idea. I don't think we've applied before for AdSense, so I gave your idea a try and there you go. Their pay seems to be quite decent so all we need now are clicks. However, please only click once on each ad. Multiple clicks will not be counted and you'll just waste your time.
Thanks in advance to those that will click on ads. Maybe we'll actually earn money to run a contest at last!
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 7 Feb 2004
19:03 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Looks good Z. I din't see them at first. I think that this will be a much better success. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
14:07 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | added it to files.cgi pages...
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
14:19 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | thanks B
Oh, I'd like to ask everyone to please click on our ads. We really need those clicks to get anything out of our advertiser. They pay us a lot better than our previous advertiser so all we need if your support. Like we've said before, the money we earn will not go into our pockets but will go towards this website and if we earn enough towards conest prizes.
On a sidenote, I clicked on of those computer game ads and they actually had some really good priced stuff there. I got like 3 games from them (umm...I forget the name) for around $20. Those are some old game of course, but I kinda forgot about them and figured why not get a copy. Btw, has anyone played Odium? Its been ardound back in '98-'99 or so and was a pretty decent turn based strategy with rpg/exploration elements (it was REALLY hard tho, you can download a demo from download.com or fileplanet). Anyway, good stuff!
[Edited by zkostik on 08-Feb-04 23:53]
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
17:07 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | are the ads like some associate links where the website gets a cut? |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
18:23 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Thats odd . . .I clicked on the ads and nothing happened. Am I doing somethin wrong? |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
19:02 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | click on a green link. also, if they stay loaded too long they might expire. i suggest you click on one or two ads when they first load and then just continue to the site. thanks for clicking btw. maybe you'll even find something worth buying like i did. :)
ti spiral: thise are just CPC (cost-per-click) ads. we get money for clicks plus some bonus for the clicks per impression ration. as of today (2nd or 3rd day) we have about $1.5 which is only the start and with aaddzz it took a lot longer to reach even with 100's of clicks. i hope we'll at last get the money to run my contest. though, i won't tell what it's about yet, only i we actually get to run it. :img26:
[Edited by zkostik on 09-Feb-04 04:09]
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 8 Feb 2004
20:38 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | the espn magazine one doesn't ever seem to work, oh well. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 9 Feb 2004
10:36 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | yeah, i noticed that one too. there are however two espn ad links, the other one works fine.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 9 Feb 2004
19:49 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Nope zkostik, the candanian ones don't work-none of them do. I clicked and waited for a long time, none of them are working for me. Tried all the things you guys said above. :(
EDIT: I just noticed that when I tried, I couldn't even get them to open a new window , nothing.
[Edited by calculatorfreakCG on 10-Feb-04 04:49] |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 9 Feb 2004
20:33 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | calcfreak, might you have a pop-up blocker, perhaps? |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 9 Feb 2004
23:04 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | mozilla might be stopping the redirects of the ads i believe.
oops, nm, worked this time, odd oh well. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 10 Feb 2004
15:49 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | maybe google uses meta refresh? i know that many browsers stop this, or you at least have to configure the settings.
anyway, so far i've noticed only two ads not working, so that must be some problem on your side calcfreak. perhaps a popup blocker or a firewall (yes, some do have this kind of feats).
either way, just click on ads since they will count anyway as long as the click info gets to the google server...afterwards it may be the advertiser problem not ours since we served the ad.
EDIT: Google AdSense works quite differently than Aaddzz did. Earnings are based on clickthru ratio. In other words, the more impressions we get the more clicks we need to earn money. Basically, more impressions is better because it'll make commissions go up but in order for us to get something for that, we need clicks. So far, the most clicks per day we had was 7. Very disappointing... If you're a frequent visitor, please right click on some ad link and open it in a new window every now and then your visit this site. Doing so will help us with hosting costs and maybe even earn money for contest or AIM parties. In case you don't know what our AIM party is, its basically a chat party where folks that attend get free prizes. Cool eh? Though, we couldn't do any of this is we has $0. Clicking on ads don't cost you a thing and will earn us some spending money for the site.
Thanks.
[Edited by zkostik on 11-Feb-04 02:49]
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 10 Feb 2004
20:20 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | both links resulted in connection was refused...but since we only get 60 users active in the forums in the last two months, i guess i'm not too surprised by the low number of clicks... |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 11 Feb 2004
18:06 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | In Safari all worked well. THe only thing that does not work on this site is the menus at the top. I don't use them much, but I assume it is a java script bug in Safari. If it is I'll be reporting it soon. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 12 Feb 2004
19:06 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | that's how many people posted. but as we know it, most people just register and don't post it. we do however get plenty of traffic and high impressions number also reflects this, the clicks number doesn't. on average, 10 clicks per 5000 impressions earns us a little over a $1. if we were to get 20-30 clicks a day from an average of 2000 visitors we would be actually making some money that'd be worth mentioning and could be used for something worthy.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 12 Feb 2004
19:47 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Nope, not ad blocking, just turned off my sercurity.
Anyways, when the ads finally work for me, after I mess around with this computer, I'll be sure to click my hand off! :) |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 12 Feb 2004
19:47 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Hey- my ads work now! I'm clicking away . . .
Hope you guys get really, really rich! :) |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 14 Feb 2004
18:01 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | it may be that i rearely look at cg.org's home page, but was there always an add right below the games/programs/projects/misc/site/home buttons and to the left of the CG banner?
Ah, you moved it, didn't you?
Well, it doesn't look very good, as when you move your curser over the programs tab, it covers up like half of the ad.
[Edited by allynfolksjr on 15-Feb-04 03:03] |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 15 Feb 2004
15:26 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Clacfreak, Please edit your post instead of making a new one if there times are close together and they are about the same thing. Like what Allyn did. |
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 15 Feb 2004
19:23 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | Okay Digital, I'll do that next time.
Allyn-these ads are much better than the other ones! And I love the color they bring to the site. If you ask me these ones are about 10 times better than the old ones. As for looking good, well, no ad every looks great; but these actually aren't half bad. I say keep Google adsense. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 15 Feb 2004
19:51 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | wow, i missed the ads, because of the new spot. htat spot will attract more attention and be less intrusive, nice. btw, it's also moer on-subject now, with newegg and random games. I heard newegg is even a pretty good retailer. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 16 Feb 2004
19:54 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | well, let me tell you guys why we've decided to move the ad to where it is now. as i have previously mentioned, google pays money for clicks but with high regard to click/impression ratio. when we had ads on all dynamically generated pages we were getting waaay too many impressions and nearly no clicks which results in almost no money. now, we still get very low clicks but we also get a more reasonable amount of impressions so the numbers kinda balance out better and turn out into a better profit. as of now, this income will only cover the hosting costs (it almost covered 1/2 a month by now). anyway, thanks for clicks everyone. actually, please do check out the advertisers because there are indeed some good ones. like S said, newegg is one of those great sites. i got most of my computer parts there and they also have pc games for some very competitive prices.
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calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 16 Feb 2004
20:10 GMT
Total Posts: 739 | WOw! Thats great zkostik. I'll keep clicking those ads! |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 16 Feb 2004
20:25 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | THats what I was thinking, because I realized that everypage had a new ad, but I wasn't sure if it actually counted IP or page hits. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 17 Feb 2004
11:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Where it currently is seems to be the best place yet. I say don't move it. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 26 Feb 2004
18:55 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Just a little update here people. For the past 21 days we've earned $16 which has paid for our recent domain name update (our domain was going to expired soon...). I can actually say that I'm proud of our advertiser because its actually very helpful. I also thank everyone who clicks those ads, there are some nice advertisers too who offer good stuff. Who knows, maybe we'll even earn money to host another AIM party :). Thanks guys!
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 26 Feb 2004
19:17 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Will we be able to hold a small contest starting on April 1st at this rate? |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 26 Feb 2004
19:46 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | we still don't know how much money we can expect per year. April will most likely be too soon, but definitely around summer time we should know.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 26 Feb 2004
19:54 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | yeah, i'd agree with B on that one. so far income will be a bit more than we pay for hosting so basically that takes care of one thing. the rest of the money can of course go for other miscellaneous uses but i think we won't make anything significant by April (unless of course people start click our ads more often). at this moment we average about 10 clicks a day and about c70-$1.30 a day. which is faily decent comparing to what we were getting from aaddzz. anyway, time will tell when we get enough money for a contest.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 27 Feb 2004
04:56 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Misc uses, like food and movies? .70-1.30 isn't much, but it's plenty to help defray cost, so everything is good.
btw, what's an AIM party have to do with money? |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 27 Feb 2004
12:45 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | That's 21-39 bucks a months/30 days which I believe covers almost all of the sites cost iirc. When summer time hits it should jump up with activity.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 28 Feb 2004
00:41 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | But if impressions go up, and clicks dont' go up, won' the amount of money actually drop? |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 28 Feb 2004
15:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | lol S! no, it wouldn't be enough for movies but it should be enough to cover the hosting costs. btw, none of this money will go for our personal use, so don't worry.
and yes, i and B are planning to run a contest once we get enough money. yes, if impressions go up and clicks stay the same then we won't make as much. the more clicks we get the more we'll get paid.
at this time we only average about 10 clicks a day, it this doubles with our current impressions then we'll make around double the money.
EDIT: Just a small update. As of now we're at $20. Basically, that's what we earned for February. We'll receive a check once our balance reaches $100, so click the banners from time to time. Once we receive the check (it won't be for a while...) we'll most likely launch some contest or an AIM party so keep an eye for that. ;)
[Edited by zkostik on 01-Mar-04 18:21]
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 19 Mar 2004
09:57 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | ok now i see the layer problem...
Z, since you're the html pro, can you make the ad on the same layer as the logo?
when i'm at home the dropdown menus are over the ad but here at school they're under the ads.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 19 Mar 2004
10:35 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | actually, what i should do is make ad z smaller than dropdowns but we must keep the logo z larger than ad z. this way dropdowns will appear over the ad and so will logo. i guess this may be caused by either my bug of older browsers in school.
EDIT: actually, the layer that had ads was missing its z value. i've added it in but unfortunately i have no way to test if this fixes the problem with the browser you use in school. btw, what browser is it?
[Edited by zkostik on 19-Mar-04 19:46]
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 19 Mar 2004
12:16 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | i'd imagine it's IE 5.
Here at home i use IE6 and the dropdown menus are over the ad.. so i guess they changed something.
i'll check again monday.
btw, one person pointed this out a couple weeks ago, maybe they could check for us.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 19 Mar 2004
16:30 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | this is still strange. because the page would have a z of 0 is z is not specified. thus, menus should show up on top of it anyway. now i have included the z for both logo and ad layers so let's see if it changes anything.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 25 Mar 2004
16:49 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I don't want to sound annoying but ad clicks seem to dwindle while requests are still about the same. We really need those clicks, at least from time to time, besides, out advertisers actually have some great deals. We need this money to pay our next hosting bill as well as to run a contest we've been planning for a long time (maybe even an AIM party!).
Anyway, thanks for your support guys.
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