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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
06:32 GMT
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Edit | Okay, I talked w/Z a little bit, and he gave me an okay. I do need help from the community, though.
We have to give files screenshots.
As you probably have noticed, some people will only DL games with screenies, and they do show people what they are DLing. Just take a game and make a few screenshots.
A few suggestions:
If you don't have VTI and you want to take screenies of an ASM program on the 83+, you can take them with TI-Flash Debugger. Just run the virtual calculator and press the Print Screen button on your keyboard, then paste in Paint or photoshop, crop, and save.
Animated screenshots are cool.
One or two will do for most games. |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
09:14 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | Sadly, this shouldn't be too hard considering the size of the CG archives. However I personally am plain pooped out with screenshots. I know there are some people that are out there that will help though. |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
10:46 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Yeah, I'd bet. Too bad I don't have time right now... |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
14:26 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | JC, i think you mean if you press alt+shift+printscreen it will take a screenie of the entire screen, which you can then paste into photoshop. BTW M, I could help out with the screen shots, just tell me what to do. I have until next sunday off from school wwith little hw and nothing much more to do. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
14:31 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | No, I just press PrintScreen. I don't use alt and shift...
Um, this was more of my idea...
Just download a game, take some screenies, and hold on to them until someone sets up a directory for them. Then you can just email em to the admins. Give the screenshots names identical to the .zip files for easy identification. |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 19 Feb 2005
22:27 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | >> Um, this was more of my idea...
YES...this was JC's idea! The most I could do right now would be to add some of them to the site.
Contact JC...he's the organizer! |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 20 Feb 2005
06:56 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Well, I justgave an animated screenshot for Phoenix Z |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 20 Feb 2005
08:17 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Send M or Z batches of screenies with the same name as the .zip file of the program. They can put em in a directory such as 8xp/Games or DOS/Programs, and then add them to the site. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 20 Feb 2005
10:12 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Maybe I should figure out where the programs and related files are stored on the server, I seem to have neglected that.
Edit: Wow, the screenys for old files are pretty much wherever the archiver decided they should go.
[Edited by allynfolksjr on 20-Feb-05 19:24] |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 20 Feb 2005
10:34 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yes, that unfortunately how it was. I then started getting things organized and created folders and if I have time I'll eventually move all screens where they belong and update file records accordingly. Though, feel free to do that if you're up to the task. Even a few files at a time will make things more organized and cleaner. I remember when someone was lazy and several files were blatantly dropped into our Pub folder instead of where it should have went...
EDIT: Okay, I've moved all screens to their appropriate folders. If that broke some links please let me know. Anyway, that should make things more organized on our side. I moved screens for about 20 or so files btw.
[Edited by zkostik on 20-Feb-05 20:23]
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Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 20 Feb 2005
14:24 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | Hey Z....B told me that was you ;-) its all good, from the user side they couldn't tell :-)
Edit:
Oh and Allyn...the files are the only thing I can locate :-) Well that and the avatar space.
[Edited by Morgan on 20-Feb-05 23:25] |
Tim McMahon
Probe
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
00:32 GMT
Total Posts: 5 | *slowly migrating to the calcgames.org community, almost completely given up hope for the development of ticalc.org as it has way to many programs to be practical*
Screenshots eh? I think I could do them. How many programs are we talking and the desired program->screenshot ratio?
Credentials...credentials...hmm, refer to ticalc.org :p |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
02:03 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | JC...you want to get Tim on your team! :-) I couldn't even beat this guy last summer over at ticalc he's amazing!
I'm setting down 1 rule right now, no more than 4. I haven't had to hack the script and figure out how to put in more than 4 :-)
Edit: Turned on the html ;-)
[Edited by allynfolksjr on 21-Feb-05 19:03] |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
04:16 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Hey Tim. It would be great to have maybe 2 screenies per game, maybe a title screen and a gameplay shot.
We're talking everything that doesn't have a screenie, which is maybe about 1/2 of the archive, which is about 300 programs. Which is nothing compared to ticalc.
I've noticed that people have been leaving ticalc.org for CG... sweet! I think we have a much better discussion area here. :) I've never been a fan of ticalc, I only go there when I absolutely need information or special programs. They're just so big and it is such a clumsy interface... |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
19:42 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Well M, it's been both of us as far as lazy things go :). B was able to fix a lot of stupid things last month before he left, so kudos to him for that as it would probably have taken me some time to get around to do what he did.
As with files and ticalc, we've always been more community oriented and they were file oriented which works out quite well actually. Ticalc's search is a big problem, their archive would be much better is they were to work out many problems with their search. That's a big deal considering crazy number of files they have which make it practically impossible to find things unless you know exactly what and where you can find it.
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korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
19:59 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | TiCalc also lets in basicly everything that dosen't have a bug.. no matter how stupid it is. The other day, I found a file that was simply a lamely drawn copy of the flag of taiwan (for the 83+), nothing else, just a pic of a flag... CG is (minorly) becoming like TiCalc in that way. I think M needs to slow down on letting in particuarly lame math programs for the 83+ (and other things similar to those). But that's just me... |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 21 Feb 2005
20:46 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yes, we could filter out junk but that will make lots of people unhappy. We could run a poll to see what our visitors would prefer but I'm not going to comment on whether or not we will make changes. I suppose we can add extra markers to each file to identify it as either worthy or not and people would be able to either view only worthy files or all files. I think that would make it more fair as anyone will still be able to submit... If you have comments/suggesting please shoot them my way. Thanks.
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Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
00:57 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | ticalc doesn't test programs before approval, so programs that don;t work might not be removed until someone has spoken up. I do my best to run all the programs I have, however with this new system, it isn't as easy now, but I still do it.
B's logic was...if there is a guy sitting on an island and he only had a TI calc...would he find the program somewhat musing/entertaining, ever for the sleightest amount of time?
If so approve it!
I got tons and tons of complaints about crappy programs at ticalc...whcih started me in that ever winding quest to improve the quality of the archives...didn;t get too far did I. when I realize nobody else on the staff cared to do anything, I had to go! |
Tim McMahon
Probe
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
04:10 GMT
Total Posts: 5 | eeeh, I hope my MiniSnake game can stay! *as I was on an excursion to a uni for a chemistry experiment I pulled out a 92+ and made MiniSnake for 68k* stayed tuned for the upload.
Personally I believe BASIC files should be sorted into sections and uploaded as source code to further improve the development of programs. I can think of three ways to find a numerical Palindrome, all of which I found out the hard way since I started with using Lists then Strings and finaly just a fpart(ipart()) routine could do it.
Something should probably be changed with the layout of programs, ie: put them in this frame and use the left for the directory listings. Basic will always kill an archive and image related Basic programs are just useless....minisnake =P
Shall I just browse through the archive starting with the 82 directory and email screenshots with the programs site ID number? |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
04:22 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | That seems to work. Do them in number order. So...
TI-82
TI-83
TI-83+
Why is there even a TI-84+ section?
TI-85
TI-86
TI-89
TI-89Ti
TI-92
TI-92+
V200
I don't really think DOS games need screenies, but the windows programs could use them.
And also, Jc's Double Breakout has a .jpg of the title screen in the zip file. Use that as a screenie. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
08:38 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | 84+ section is there for any *proprietary* stuff that when the new calc came out we thought would be there. But generally, if someone submits a new files labeled specifically for 84, it'd go there... As with DOS games, they'd need screens just as much as calc games, but again, its up to you as to which progs will receive screens so whatever ones you make is all good. With your game I guess that screenies wasn't noticed by an accident. I'll see if I might be able to fix it this evening.
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
10:07 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Well, M didn't think it was part of the gameplay. It should be the title sceen. And most of Kevin's RPG games are SE or 84 only. Thnx. |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
12:31 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | I'm really confused...explain more please. |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
14:12 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | I do believe this is a good moment to stress that this problem would barely exist if uploaders took the time to make a screenshot themselves. I mean, cmon, a BASIC program doesn't even require an emulator! Just use the link software to grab a screenshot! It's a <5 minute process, so please, everyone go the extra mile and put a screenshot with your file, regardless if it's a math prog, or a game. Nothing fancy, just one or two still screens are easy and quick. |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 22 Feb 2005
15:19 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | LOL. I guess if I can remember to, I will add some pics... |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
01:00 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | Very well put Anthony...however at first I thought you were talking to me when I add them :-) I did that at ticalc for about 6 months...now I have to admit that was hard to keep up with!! Posting files over there is easy as hell../making screenshots for those that didn;t have them was a true challenge! |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
06:10 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | Oops, ya it does sound like I was attacking staff :blink_a: I only meant the people who submit files. I just thought, as calcgames is still yet not too big, that we should try to prevent this problem from happening at all. This would be harder if calcgames had as many files as ticalc, and we shouldn't wait for that time to happen. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
12:13 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Just a quick question about screenies, how do you make an animated gif out of the screen shots, do you need other software besides TI-connect or no? |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
15:32 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | Best bet is to go with an emulator. I never heard of animated screenies taken right from the calc. |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
17:04 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | Video Camera :-)
Sadly I have seen that! |
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
17:06 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | Lunchbox, check out this file and if you have any further questions...get back to me.http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/298/29833.html |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 23 Feb 2005
20:54 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Just use teh TISHOT prog for VTI and you'll make some nice gif caps.
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Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 24 Feb 2005
00:06 GMT
Total Posts: 321 | As ironic as it may be I have never actually had any success with TISSHOT. I know I have done everything right the dozen or so times I have installed it, however, it just hasn't worked. It always puts the screen captures in some ungoddly format with no extension and it quite simple just doesn't work for me.
But VTI/CalcCapture always works fabulous! |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 24 Feb 2005
15:13 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | "Video Camera
Sadly I have seen that!"
OMG I'm gonna have to do that now. Just for the idiotic pleasure. Maybe I'll use a digital camera to nab some shots :blink_a: |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 24 Feb 2005
19:20 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | I can't get either VTI or Tilp to give me a ROM dump :img32: . Also, tilp declared itself the main program for all the calculator files (.8xp, etc). Any way i can restore these to TI-connect?
EDIT: Nvm, I restored em
[Edited by Lunchbox on 25-Feb-05 04:27] |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 24 Feb 2005
19:41 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | OOOH!!! I have an idea (it might be hard though) You could be able to check if you want to see "unworthy/worthy" programs AND be able to select what type of files (i.e. 82,83,83+,84+?,85 etc.) you want to see in the new files area. |
Tim McMahon
Probe
Posted: 27 Feb 2005
00:54 GMT
Total Posts: 5 | Perhaps the New Files area could be shifted to the main window. Then have it dating back *x* days with the most recent collection of one day having a screenshot and description etc like a feature and the below days just having the name and section. Like ticalc.orgs setup only better. =P
*nice to see that the forums weren't deleted with the programs* |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 27 Feb 2005
07:40 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah, that could be a nice feat Tim. I'll also will probably be working on worthy/unforwthy file tags so that archive can be of better quality or say of preferred or overall community popular files (that'd sound more fair tho).
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