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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
00:45 GMT
Total Posts: 958
Yes, i have great interest in the area of handheld computers (which was a bit of a stepping up from calculators).

So, I'd like to hear from those who know (or heard!) miscellaneous bits of information: Which do you consider better, Windows Mobile 2003 or PalmOS 5?
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
07:28 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Yeah, I wish I had right now. . . . .

I'd bring it to school every day and surf the net. . . .
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
17:07 GMT
Total Posts: 958
Well...to surf the net, unless ur school happens to have a wireless LAN within 100 feet of every classroom, would require using a cellphone. That would require a bluetooth handheld and phone (unless u want the teacher to see a phone connected via infared to your handheld). That would cost about 300 at the least, normally around 400. And then a phone would cost around 50-100 (mayb 0 with a service plan). But you'd probably run out of batteries within 4 hours. Conclusion: it's not too feasible, especially with monthly cellphone + data plan costs.
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 23 Oct 2003
19:38 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Well, I don't want to start any battle here but below are some of my thoughts.

PPC is in about any aspect more powerful than any Palm powered pda. The hardware is more powerful and so is OS itself.
Despite PPC's power however, Windows CE is still windows and it yeilds Palm's stability.
Both WinCE and Palm OS are very intuitive and easy to use but WinCE provides a lot more built in features that PalmOS does not natively provide.
Most PPC's have a lot more RAM than any Palm powered pda's.
Most PPC's feature two memory slots, one for MMC and other for CF. Palm based pda's usually only have MMC slot. Though, PPC's usually are much larger and heavier than Palm pda's.
Due to PPC's power you'll be able to enjoy many more cool things on it rather than on Palm. There's even ports of Quake and other real 3D games for PPC. PPC's also have different emulators that let you run virtually any game from consoles lile SEGA Genesis, SNES and like (and these emulators are free while Palm ones aren't). There are some really nice games for Palm too, but 3D doesn't go that great on Palm hardware.
Of course PPC with its superior featured doesn't come cheap and you'll dump a lot more money for a nice PPC than a nice Palm. That's not always true however, since some Palm's are pretty expensive if you get one with cell phone and other stuff like that.

If I had money what would I get? I'd get a PPC because I like gadgets and various goodies that PPC offers and Palm doesn't.
What do I have? I have a Zire 71.
What would I think is a good deal on a Palm based pda? Zire71 for these people who need the camera and plan to user extras via its universal connector. Tungsten-E for people who don't need features listed in the sentence above and want a good deal for money.
People who have too much cash may look into Sony's Hi-End Clie models. I however think that Sony's Clie's are way overpriced.
What about a PPC pda? I'd go with an iPaq 1945 or 2215 would be a good value models, and those who want a kickass iPaq can check out 5555. There are other makers that produce nice PPC's but I'd go with an iPaq. Also, Dell's X5 is a good deal for $300. Though, it has a smaller screen than other PPC's.

Also to consider is possible repair cost. Pda's a very fragile and some regular use may damage them if you don't take extra care to protect it. Repair may come out very expensive and you should always consoder this especially if you're getting a pricey pda model.

Okay, that's my 2 cents. Also, people who just plan to get a pda for play emulated games should definitely have a look at a GP32 game system (Game Park 32, can be easily found online via yahoo or google). Its open source, has a 32bit proc (~144mHz), 320x240 16bit lcd, SD card slot. Plays mp3's, DivX and has tons of emulators for SNES, Genesis, NES, etc. as well as lots of free soft. GP32 costs around $150 and the backlighted version is around $210.

Hehe, sry for the long essay...

[Edited by zkostik on 24-Oct-03 04:39]

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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 23 Oct 2003
23:00 GMT
Total Posts: 958
oh, btw, have you seen the new NES emulator for Palm OS5 Z? I've heard of the GP32, thought it was neat for a while, I heard SNES emulation isn't very good for it (which is really too bad, SNES has the best games, behind Genesis).

Some points I'd disagree with you on Z, new Palms are hardware-wise nearly as powerful the most powerful Pocket PC's (Tungsten C). I feel that the Palm OS is too different, causing MORE crashes than Windows Mobile. Palm OS encounters an error -> reset, a Windows Mobile rarely crashes the whole OS, but you do need to soft-reset once in a while. PPC2003 (which is based on WinCE.net 4.2). RAM is getting pretty close, the new Zodiac has 128, which matches the 5550, also Pocket PC's have to allocate memory to run programs, which palm doesn't, but Pocket PC's usually have flash memory they can write to (without Jackflash). And most Pocket PC's don't offer dual slots, but there still are a bunch that do.

Simplicity and the "Zen of Palm" - I feel Palm PIM apps are easier to use, but Pocket PC is more powerful but complex. One nice thing about Pocket PC's is playing Divx and better free audio players.

I have a Sony Clie, definately was overpriced, but Sony's definately have the most style in my opinion. However, their disregard for users, who they want to upgrade constantly, and poor recent models, means I wont' be buying one of their Palms anytime soon.

I'm getting the Asus Mypal A620, even over the 2215 and 1945, supposedly the *fastest* PPC availible. SNES emulation should be smooth :) Main reasons for it over teh 2215, cheaper, slightly better screen (from opinions i've heard), FAST, larger battery and buttons that are well-suited for games :img20: disadvantages: no dual slots, bigger, no bluetooth (which I dont' want anyways)

Pricing is pretty competitive and close these days. I saw a deal for a new Pocket PC at 180 dollars, it's actually one that's gives decent performance.
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 24 Oct 2003
14:14 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Well, you know what I mean . . .
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 24 Oct 2003
16:12 GMT
Total Posts: 958
I know that to surf the internet during school is something that you, me, and about 99999999 other people would want. But the fact is: it's expensive, unrealistic, and the internet is not made for a screen smaller than 4"





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