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Probe
Posted: 31 Dec 1969
16:00 GMT
Total Posts: 1 | and concerning Windows stability, even MS itself uses Linux and UNIX on it's webservers. :)
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LBarrettAnderson
Marine
Posted: 9 Nov 2001
18:19 GMT
Total Posts: 15 | Windows is definately better because EVERYONE has it, so there is NEVER a problem on compatibility, and you can always find help from anyone else who has windows... if you think differently (or agree) post your reasons here... i'd be glad to hear what some Linux lovers have to say. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 9 Nov 2001
18:28 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | How about UNIX?
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pollpo
Probe
Posted: 10 Nov 2001
14:01 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Well... Windows takes the cake only because every computer had it, but Linux over-all is more stable. Instead of bombing out the entire operating system, it just bombs out the window. The only disadvantages are you have to setup your computer when you first install Linux (but you never have to do it again, unlike windows) and that there arn't enough compatable programs out for Linux yet. They should create something that makes all Windows programs be able to opperate of Linux, then it will boost the growth alot. (especially because Linux us free) |
Sauron
Probe
Posted: 13 Nov 2001
16:01 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Linux by far is the better one. Granted there are more programs written for the OS but, I have never, ever understood why explorer.exe *randomly* crashes and tears down the rest of the OS with it.
Now, I don't know if Win XP is more stable or not. They claim to have not used any of the Win 4 (95,98,Me) code and it has a NTFS instead of FAT32 (which has problems of its own).
My $.02
~Sauron |
Drantin
Marine
Posted: 13 Nov 2001
17:50 GMT
Total Posts: 19 | hey pollpo heard of WINE? it's supposed to work pretty good but I haven't tried it yet.
Main reason I haven't tried it is because I'm using WinXP
WinXP is pretty stable but for some reason the other day it decided to vlock access to my download folder and kept giving me access denied errors :P
Same thing happened to my friends desktop when he upgraded to WinXP :P
(I got the problem fixed by the way)
The only linux i've tried so far is TurboLinux(c) which was no good... It crashed more for me than WinME!
also WinXP is more an upgrade from windows 2000 than anything else so there are TONS of DOS games that no longer work even in the famed "compatibility" mode which I still haven't gotten to work on Red Alert |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 13 Nov 2001
18:26 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | My Win ME is quite stable and I don't feel the need for upgrading to XP. I also don't want to waste my money on XP, cuz it's much more expensive than other versions of Windows. Most of the crashes on my comp are from the 3rd party software I'm using. It's hard to believe that MS didn't use any part of Win 95, 98, ME in it's XP cuz this would be a major rewrite which such a large company as MS would try to avoid. Concerning the DOS programs, the DOS emulator isn't very good and it doesn't do a good job with sound either. I heard that there was some other, not MS emulator but haven't seen it yet. Maybe it's time for us to move away from DOS programs...
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madPenguin
Probe
Posted: 14 Nov 2001
14:39 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | hey barrett..
Windows is not better than Linux because everyone has it and most companies develop for it. That would be Windows being more convenient for the average user, not better. Seeing that many people dont know a whole lot about how their computer works, Windows (especially XP) is great for many people-it's a very user friendly, computer illiterate orientated OS. Linux is user friendly, but in a different way. It's not for the average user because it *can be* difficult to set up, difficult to learn, and difficult to use.
In terms of the actual OS, Linux is better. When something in windows crashes, generally it pulls down the rest of windows with it. Linux wont. Linux can stay up for years, which is why most webservers are powered by Linux. Windows 9x/ME can stay up for about 3 days if you're lucky. NT/2000/XP can stay up longer, but they are more expensive. Linux is free. I downloaded RedHat 7.1 without paying anything but download time. Linux is also open source, widely used, and is just as visually-appealing as Windows.
...Linux is better |
pollpo
Probe
Posted: 15 Nov 2001
07:24 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Well... It seems that my last posted message never made it... Oh well. On the note of WINE, if you want to download it or take a look at it, goto http://www.winehq.com/download.shtml . My other comment was just about how horrible Windows ME is. (at least my experience with it) |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 15 Nov 2001
12:35 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | According to my experience, Me is much better than 95 and 98. It also works faster and better with games than 2000 but less stable. Why do you think it's horrible?
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pollpo
Probe
Posted: 15 Nov 2001
15:50 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I explained it in the one that somehow was deleted, so I guess I'll explain it again. It has several bugs, and many can be obnoxious. For one, whenever you install anything onto your computer, it creates the empty files *oem.inf. If you don't know about them, their presence could make it impossible to update your computer (including DirectX and such (speking of which, the newest DirectX patch just came out)) I had over 30,000 of them before I deleted them! And it is truly more unstable. XP is supposed to be somewhat decent. Go online and take a look at alot of the other bugs for ME. I point this one out because I couldn't update DirectX for months to play these $50 games I just bought. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 15 Nov 2001
15:59 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Hmm...never encountered such problems. I've updated my DX drivers last weekend and I had no problems at all. Everything works like dream.
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pollpo
Probe
Posted: 16 Nov 2001
05:39 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I'm sure it will come bite you in the butt eventually :o)
[Edited by LBArrettAnderson on 17-Nov-01 15:30] |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 16 Nov 2001
19:30 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Thanks for assuring me pollpo.
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Drantin
Marine
Posted: 26 Nov 2001
16:01 GMT
Total Posts: 19 | another complaint about winXP.... if I leave the comp alone for more than 2 minutes...and sometimes while I'm using it... explorer keeps taking up 97% of the system resources.... ON A 1.4 Ghz AMD w/ 256 megs of ram!
the only thiung i've been able to do so far is to open task manager and shut explorer down and start it back up... hope i find another solution soon |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 28 Nov 2001
12:27 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | that sounds strange, like a very bad memory leak. does it free the memory when you come back to use your comp?
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Drantin
Marine
Posted: 3 Dec 2001
14:41 GMT
Total Posts: 19 | no.... the only thing i've been able to do so far is
Ctrl-Alt-Del which opens Task Manager click processes sort by CPU and it says that explorer is taking up 95-100% of system resources RAM and CPU power... right-clicking explorer and end process
then file-new task-"explorer" (w/o quotes) and pressing enter
logging off and on also seems to work ...or rebooting |
LBarrettAnderson
Marine
Posted: 3 Dec 2001
16:45 GMT
Total Posts: 15 | that's definately not right... (btw.. that's not internet explorer... it's like all of the currently running applications... or something)... i know that it's definately not ACTUALLY taking up that much memory. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 3 Dec 2001
17:53 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | i suggest you run some antivirus software just to eliminate possibility of having some bad ass virus in your system. that's probably all i can suggest cuz i and my friends never encountered anything like this. try talking to MS customer support, sometimes they can help =)
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Drantin
Marine
Posted: 20 Dec 2001
14:39 GMT
Total Posts: 19 | finally figured out what my problem was...
/me smacks hand on forehead
tweak-xp kept "optimizing" my ram whenever it wanted to... i hadn't even known it automatically ran whenever my computer was on
/me smacks hand against forehead again
*do NOT let tweak-xp do that if you install it...it can create one heck of a time trying to figure out whats wrong* |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 20 Dec 2001
22:09 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I'm sure XP has more similar features of that kind. MS likes adding more and more features that do everything for you. :)
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MCConniffe
Probe
Posted: 24 Dec 2001
14:20 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | well i've been using pcs for years ... i've used every version of windows from 1.06 to XP Pro which i currently use ... i recently got into using Linux/BSD/Solaris/SCO UNIX, and have gotten good enough at them to no longer call myself a newbie, though not quite the expert yet ... I CAN sya this ... they both have their place ... *nix and Windows ... i like the stability of *nix for servers and such, but for my desktop pc it just doesn't cut it ... first off, much of the software for it is relatively cheezy ... either is much more difficult to install/use than necessary (no im' not lazy ... i am just much too busy to spend hours doing a small task, when another solution could have it done in minutes) ... Also i like the way Windows manages resources better ... *nix seems to give all processes all resources when they need it ... so if im burning a cd and i open an mp3, the cd will lose a significant amount of resources, causing it to fail, while the mp3 program loads seconds faster ... in windows yes, it still does that but to much less of an extent ... *nix simply needs to enforce better task priority rules ... as far as which is better ... well that depends on what the person needs it for ... imho .. if your running a server, or you need raw power ... use *nix ... if you need desktop applications to run well, co-exist well, and all that ... use WindowsXP ... its far more stable, secure, and faster than any other version of windows i've ever used ... and now that ms hired some security experts (finally), security holes have been fixed relatively quickly...
Of course it's up to the individual user which they install ... but still neither is better than the other. They both have their bugs, they both have their problems. It's just a matter of which you prefer :) |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 25 Dec 2001
08:03 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | lol, nice comment MCConniffe!
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Drantin
Marine
Posted: 9 Feb 2002
08:13 GMT
Total Posts: 19 | well... it's been a while since i last posted here...altho i keep coming to check up on it...
anyway...
i'm now running Mandrake Linux 8.2 Beta 1 on my comp instead of WinXP...
WinXP was still giving me problems such as:
telling me it could not rename a file because it was in use(it was defenitly not in use... i rebooted several times)
...fixed it by renaming stuff that it wouldn't let me do normally by using a dos box
there were more...anyone else ever forget what they were about to type? (rhetorical question)
anyway...if i have any real problems with linux... i'll post here... |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 9 Feb 2002
21:15 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | yeah, I heard people having trouble with linux. it's hard to get it running properly, but should eventually pay back with stability unlike windoz. maybe create a new topic for linux, maybe others can help you out?
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 8 Nov 2002
11:49 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Man this is an old conversation. One thing that I now between the two is that there are like no viruses for Linux and a whole mess of them for Windows. What caught my interest was that the comment before mine was on my birthday...Too bad I didn't know that site was here back then. Oh, I'm not entirely sure but with WINE and WINEX (linux/unix version of DirectX 8) but you can run most Windows progs on Linux. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Nov 2002
18:52 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | well, WINE runs a lot of progs but not most. actually, most game won't work (actually, there's a list of supported soft on WINE's website). Linux is nice coz you can get it for nada while Windoze XP Pro is like $200. which is gay. and stupid Windoze XP Home has like no network feats and other needed stuff -> so you pay another $100 to get Pro.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 8 Nov 2002
20:17 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Wow, the newest posts are almost a year later than the first one. Never tried Linux, so can't really say much. Yeah, there are a lot of viruses for windows b/c a) everybody uses it b) it sux at defending itself. |
Billy
Ultralisk
Posted: 18 Nov 2002
19:08 GMT
Total Posts: 260 | I know what you mean about the viruses. I just got norton, because I havn't had updated virus software for 2 years, and I found 34 viruses on my pc! 5 of which are tojans from IRC!
I use Win2K Pro. While XP Pro is MUCH better in networking, and slightly more stable, 2K pro is doing just great for me. Compatibility and programs are obviously abundant for Windows. Its user friendly for casual users, while also being complex in other areas. That's what makes windows so brilliant. It's made for just about everybody. I leave my PC on for months with no crashing at all.
However, its not exactly perfect; Indeed, its far from it. Windows 98 and below tend to crash a whole lot. Windows 2K Pro tends to have memory problems. Which is that when you exit a game it doesn't dump the memory. This causes problems when your ram overflows (not in a melifluouse manner) and causes chaos and becomes very bane! lol
"Well, now that we've lost 98% of our listeners, lets reward the remaining 2% with commercials" - Laslow, GTA3 |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 19 Jul 2003
12:35 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | GO XP!
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 21 Jul 2003
07:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Screw XP. 2K, Mac OS X, or Linux (no particular order) |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 21 Jul 2003
17:32 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah, I wouldn't shoud "GO!" for either as each and every one of those have their goods and bads.
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 22 Jul 2003
07:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | I don't like XP because it is "Fisher Price" for windows, and there are way too many compatibility problems. My dad says 2K is much more secure than XP too. He is quite credible, I forget what certification he has but he is a help desk technition as they call them now. |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
08:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Windows is all right, unless you're using WinME. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
11:04 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Or anything below it... XP / 2K is the way to go if you're a Windoze usah!
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Billy
Ultralisk
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
12:41 GMT
Total Posts: 260 | Holy cow this thread is old! Look at the date of the first post: Nov 10th, 2001! |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
14:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Lol! FYI: this is one of the first topics on the board. :)
It was posted the first week this site opened.
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
14:39 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | it was posted about 5 months before this site opened..... this was from ti89calcgames.f2s.com or whatever it was.... i posted this because i knew a linux vs. windows argument would get some good discussion and start the snowball for the forum.. and it did to an extent... (if you compare it to how many posts it got before this topic)
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
16:39 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Hey now I remember the name of the site! You are correct B. The design of the site back then was not that bad for a basic site. You guys have come a long way since then. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Aug 2003
19:35 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | omg, its even older than i thoight it was. yeah we sure did come a long way! :D
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darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 18 Aug 2003
17:38 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Well then, it is my job, as one of enlightened Windows use, and as one with programming power, to proclaim, with the authority given to the Emperor of BASIC, that this site, hereafter known as calcgames, is rockin'.
And yes, I'm bored :D |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 18 Aug 2003
18:20 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Lol! Nice saying :).
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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 19 Aug 2003
11:16 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Yes you are bored, and yes that is a good saying! :) |
Billy
Ultralisk
Posted: 19 Aug 2003
22:47 GMT
Total Posts: 260 | Boredom can either make you anxious and drive you mad, or drive you to actually do the work you were supposed to do hours ago. :) |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 23 Aug 2003
16:37 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Work?? What is this legendary work?? Lord Mathias has not heard of such a thing :D |
Billy
Ultralisk
Posted: 25 Aug 2003
15:43 GMT
Total Posts: 260 | Something about getting money, and fulfilling obligations... or somthing like that. *shrugs*
::continues to drink Cola and surf the web::
[Edited by Billy on 26-Aug-03 00:44] |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 25 Aug 2003
15:46 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | WOW!!!! check slashdot!!!!! (right now there's a story about the possibility that linux may not be all that secure.... VERY unusual for /.)
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darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 26 Aug 2003
10:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Money???? What's that?? |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 26 Aug 2003
14:38 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | I think I detect a hint of fraud... |
Billy
Ultralisk
Posted: 26 Aug 2003
21:23 GMT
Total Posts: 260 | Money comes in that Monopoly game. :) |
