| Author | Comment |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 29 May 2005
18:13 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | I want to know what you think is better the Sony PSP or the Nintendo DS. Please give a reason to support your answer. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 30 May 2005
04:50 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | The DS, indubitally. Although the PSP can claim features such as amazing graphics and a bunch of extra features, the DS is just so much more fun. Not only does the DS have a larger library of games (all GBA games), some of the DS games are superb and hours of entertainment. And since the DS will go online later this year (even with Animal Crossing), the PSP can't really beat it there. The PSP also has a low battery life- not fun in long car rides.
The PSP looks cool, though. If it wasn't for disk-launching and faulty square buttons, it might be worth something. I'd buy one if decent games came out for it, though.
For the DS, my pics for games right now are: Super Mario 64, WarioWare: Touched! and Feel the Magic. Also look for the new Sonic game, New Super Mario Bros., Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, and a few others. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 30 May 2005
20:12 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Actually PSP has a pretty decent battery life, my friend's PSP easily lasts 5-6 hrs playing games. There's however a big flaw in its design which is the power switch that breaks very easily and will render one's unit unoperational so tap that power switch with utter care. As with games I have to admit that DS has much better game, gameplay wise. Gfx on PSP beat DS hands down and online will come to PSP soon as well so I wouldn't consider it a big deal however seeing DS have a touch pad will ultimately make it much better for online use. Though, whether or not browser app will perform well on DS is still a question. For my taste PSP doesn't have any good games now, Gran Tourismo is nice but I get bored with it quickly. I'm only waiting for some nice japanese RPG's to come out on then I might buy myself one. I guess we'll wait and see.
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korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 31 May 2005
12:25 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | DS. Basically the same thing as everybody else. For one thing Nintendo in general seems to make more fun and kid friendly games, while PS games tend to be fighting and well... more fighting. Even if you are a fighter game fan, they usually require lots of 'little doo-dads' on the screen for info. Even though the graphics on the PSP are great, you still can't really fit all the things that need to be there for shooter games, so DS all the way!! |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 31 May 2005
12:28 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | yeah, i've noticed that Nintendo games are aimed at kids under the age of 13, though they seem to be fun for everyone. Playstation games are horrible most of the time (look at midnight club!), but they do have some pretty cool ones... i really liked the West Coast Choppers Game, and Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2 was just awesome... |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 31 May 2005
12:35 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I enjoy the so-called "kiddie games". Kirby, Mario, gameboy versions of Zelda- all so great. I pick up GTA: Vice City, this is what happens:
"How do I jump? How do I shoot? Why is that guy shooting at me? Is there any better way to steer?"
And I'm awful at most fighting games, but I play quite a few anyways. (SC II is a good one, GC has the best version 'cuz Link rocks.) |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 31 May 2005
12:37 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | ooh... GTA (VC) was one of the coolest games i've played in a while... San Andreas was cooler though... |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 31 May 2005
17:44 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Ive played (and beaten) every NES/SNES Mario and DK there is... even the 'unreleased' versions. Long live systems with 16 bits or less! |
PogoDaMonkey
Dragoon
Posted: 2 Jun 2005
10:13 GMT
Total Posts: 72 | PSP, hands down. Better graphics, no annoying touch screen or 2 screens to coordinate with, and overall better games (Dynasty Warriors and Gran Turismo to name a few Plus the fact theres been more hype over being able to shoot the cd's at each other by bending it (not reccomended though) = ) |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 2 Jun 2005
11:29 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | >>shoot the cd's at each other by bending it
lol! i know a guy with a PSP, i oughta tell him its a cheat code :) |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 6 Jun 2005
00:40 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | As a PSP owner I have to say PSP of course. Plus there's lots of good emulators for NES/Gameboy/SNES/NeoGeo CD. Disk launching isn't an issue for newer models, and I've never seen any of the newer ones eject when bent, and the square button is fixed.
I haven't heard of any power switch problems thoh. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 6 Jun 2005
06:25 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Well the power switch is plastic and the little tongue that your move with the power button backards and forwards is maybe 1mm thin and esay to break. I guess if you tend to just throw that power swith rapidly you're more likely to break it otherwise it should be okay. I took my friend's PSP apart to see that switch and it was very small and delicate so it doesn't surprise me it can break easily. It may in fact be the weakest part of the whole unit...
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austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
08:18 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | The PSP also has the feature to play music, videos and view pictures AND you can already play multiplayer online
BEAT THAT DS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
11:35 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | DS will have online. Just wait. And the music, videos, and pictures can all be done by other things I already have. How about for GAMING reasons??? |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
17:36 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | As the owner of neither, I'd have to say the TI-89 that I *used to* own. But, I'd rather have a DS probably. I have so many gba games for my gba sp that are awesome that I'd rather not go out and buy new ones. Plus, my sp lasts for about 1 20-hour car ride (not playing the whole time, but most of it :) ) and that suffices for me. Speaking of battery life, my cell phonee has an abnormally long battery life. I can leave it on standby (flipped closed) for about 72 hours and it still has plenty of battery left. Now that's awesome. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
18:33 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | I just have GBO games, so... DS would be stupid, unless someone makes a pass-through cart that has the processor etc in it. Then I'd grab a DS in a heartbeat.
My cellphone gets long battery life as well. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
18:45 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | As for the PSP a Hard Drive coming in 4,5,6, and 10 GB. And as for the Cell Phon My battery last's for about 1 week flip closed. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 10 Jun 2005
23:45 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | there are gameboy original emulators for NDS and PSP i belive. |
Archon
Marine
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
00:07 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | I was once infatuated by the DS. But now my thoughts have gone sour towards Nintendo because of it's lack of promises and fun.
I own a DS (but not for long) and it was cool and stuff. I was checking out all the games and noticed that they all suck. All the good once won't come out till this fall. Online play will be ok, but only for a some games not all. Such as probably Metroid Hunters which got delayed again! And as some of you've said, Nintendo is more oreientated towards kiddie games. That bugs me, I'm almost 16 and all I get to play is Kirby, Mario, and Warioware.
So with this in mind, I did a bunch of research on the PSP and played them and talked to kids with them. The PSP blows the DS out of the water a gazillion times. The PSP is a fully equipped entertainment system. Movie player, MP3, and game player to name a few. But what really captured my heart, was the fact you can download anything on that PSP. TV shows, and other internet movies, pics, and even GameBoy WaReZ. The PSP will bring about the downfall of Nintendo because of this. Also, you can get a hacked web broswer that looks just like normal interent if you have the game Wipeout Pure. How could the PSP possibly get better? The DS will never have this kind of capability, because Nintendo doesn't like change and improving and sticking with the 21st century crowd. We're growing up and expect more from entertainment, and the PSP has brought us that.
So I'm ditching the DS and moving on to the PSP and all it's glory. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
04:01 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | >>>That bugs me, I'm almost 16 and all I get to play is Kirby, Mario, and Warioware.<<<
My, that's a lame excuse. Kiddie games??? Any real gamer recognizes gameplay over theme. I personally never cared for the Toy Story movie, but I have the Genesis game and frankly, its a really fun game. It has platforming, puzzles, cool bosses... who cares that everything is an ugly little toy??? If you don't want a gaming platform and want a multimedia device, go ahead and get the PSP. I don't really recommend it, as the games are just stupid. Well, Darkstalkers is cool, but I won't buy a PSP for one game.
>>>But what really captured my heart, was the fact you can download anything on that PSP. TV shows, and other internet movies, pics, and even GameBoy WaReZ.<<<
So basically, the PSP can get Gameboy games? *coughNINTENDOLAWSUITcough* That won't last long.
Again, you probably aren't a hardcore gamer if you are saying this.
Besides, everyone knows that with my PC games, you don't need consoles or portables... :) |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
06:50 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | There's absolutely no point for a PSP to do all the things it can. That's how the can get away charging $450 for it. That's just insane. It's a farking game system, not an entertainment center! |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
09:33 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Not the way Sony sees it... :( Lets hope the big N doesn't do this... |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 13 Jun 2005
23:34 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Andy: the PSP only costs 250 or less...
"The PSP is a fully equipped entertainment system. Movie player, MP3, and game player to name a few. But what really captured my heart, was the fact you can download anything on that PSP. TV shows, and other internet movies, pics, and even GameBoy WaReZ."
The PSP can do all of those things, but it's really the jack of all trades, master of none. The battery life isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but the movie container and compression isn't that good, hopefully somebody will write a divx player for it. MP3's are ok, memory sticks costs are expensive. Converting movies for the PSP is quite a nuisance. The wipeout browser is also one of the slowest browsers ever, netfront 3 on my series 60 phone absolutely rocks it. GTA for PSP has also been repeatedly delayed.
About playing gameboy via emulators, that currently only works on firmware 1.0, the first couple hundred thousand PSP's shipped only in Japan. Supposedly people have found a hack for version 1.5 (the first US version, but it's not confirmed yet). However, Sony is continuously patching their firmware to prevent people from being able to run their own emulators, supposedly future games will even update your firmware without your consent. Btw, there's nothing illegal about a gameboy color/regular emulator. However, nintendo does have a patent on GBA emulation on handheld devices.
The Nintendo DS has great multiplayer support, which the PSP sucks at. It's wireless is also much better used.
The PSP does have some good games. Wipeout Pure is really fun, Ridge Racers is pretty decent, Tony Hawk is fun if you don't have console/computer versions, Twisted Metal was quite fun. Also I got SNES games running at a very playable speed on my PSP, which has excellent controls to emulate the SNES.
In the end I think both are good competitors, and you can have a good time with each, so I have no problem. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 22 Jun 2005
23:33 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | You also may hook the PSP up to your computer back-up your saved games and even download mini games.
HA!! DS can't do that now can it.
Besides i do kind of think of Nintendos line of games as kind of childish. Except for "Need for Speed 2, and The Urbz"
The PSP has racing games sports games action games etc.
And Movies i dont think Nintendo will ever beable to acomplish that by using the game cartridges that they have the PSP uses 2.0Gb UMD disks. The cartridges are probably only like 500MB-1GB Because i belive thats the biggest memory card avalible. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 23 Jun 2005
04:44 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | >>>You also may hook the PSP up to your computer back-up your saved games and even download mini games.<<<
What??? Are you kidding me??? The DS can download games!!! Ever tried multiplayer? Nintendo also has plans to be able to let owners download game demos, minigames, etc. from special areas/hotspots. That means you can do it straight from home.
>>>And Movies i dont think Nintendo will ever beable to acomplish that by using the game cartridges that they have<<<
I think they are called Game Boy Video or something? Yeah, they're only cartoons, but they've been out for a long while now, and they have the capacity to hold entire movies. Shrek is actually slated for release on it. So don't say Nintendo can't do that. Besides, I like playing games, not watching movies on my game boy.
>>>Besides i do kind of think of Nintendos line of games as kind of childish. Except for "Need for Speed 2, and The Urbz"<<<
A true gamer would realize that graphics mean little in a game unless they impede gameplay. Personally, I prefer the so-called "kiddie games"- in my collection, I have Mario, Yoshi, Animal Crossing (a very fun game, and a little violent if you have an axe... hehehe... ahem...), even a mickey mouse game (which I just played yesterday on my SNES.) All of them are good games. PSP has racing... oh boy. The only racing game in which I don't hit things in is Mario Kart for the 'cube. Action? I see one fighting game. It looks good, but I have other Capcom fighters. Action games? Lets see... Ape Escape? Were you complaining about "Kiddie?" I have that game for my PSone, and that version is better cuz of the analog sticks. I think we are left with sports. The DS has sports games too.
Also, according to Gamespot.com, Sony is cutting its production by a third of what they originally predicted. It looks as if it didn't sell well enough, so they just cut a huge amount of them.
Oh, and I just found THIS. DS too kiddie for you?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/17/news_6127735.html
[Edited by JcCorp on 23-Jun-05 13:50] |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 23 Jun 2005
05:49 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> The cartridges are probably only like 500MB-1GB Because i belive thats the biggest memory card avalible.
That's irrelevant. Game cartridges are nothing like memory sticks (besides the fact that they DO have 2GB flash drives out there). |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 23 Jun 2005
09:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Yeah, they have at least 8GB CF cards, I know SanDisk makes them. Of course, they're rather expensive right now, but with those the prices fall rather quickly. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 23 Jun 2005
12:04 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | And of course it's MUCH cheaper to make read-only memory. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 25 Jun 2005
14:33 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | the PSP is just better so im not going to argue with an asshole like you (JC). |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 25 Jun 2005
15:05 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | >>I want to know what you think is better the Sony PSP or the Nintendo DS. Please give a reason to support your answer.
I don't see your problem here. |
JumptheGun
Dragoon
Posted: 25 Jun 2005
19:09 GMT
Total Posts: 56 | I own both and that makes mes a fair judge
The PSP wins in versatility however the DS winsterms of orginality
plus the DS wins in terms of durability i mean the DS is near indestructable
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austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
16:53 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | Well i have played a DS @ gamestop and the touch screen was totally out of wack. at least with the psp you dont have align the screen or any thing. Besides how long does the DS's battery last. The psp is about 10hrs. playing game on the darkest back lit screen and about 8hrs. on the brightest back lit screen?? it must cost alot to run 2 backlit screens on the ds.?
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korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
17:00 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Thats why you either:
A: Use rechargable batteries, or
B: Hook up the batteries to an AC adapter that has the right amount of volts.
I personally use B. Most people don't realaize that with a little effort, you can have almost any device that uses batteries... plugged in!
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austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
17:05 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | I specifically said
>>Besides how long does the DS's battery last.<< |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
17:43 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Longer than the PSP's battery. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
18:58 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | How much longer smart One. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 26 Jun 2005
19:03 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | >>How long does the rechargeable battery last before it needs to be charged again?
>>Battery life largely depends upon the game being played, but it can last about 10 hours, which is comparable to the Game Boy Advance SP.
That's from Nintendo, and companies will underestimate battery life.
And also look at this:
'The DS features a lithium ion battery that delivers from six to 10 hours of play on a four-hour charge. Sony is promising between four and six hours of battery life for PSP and even less than that for graphic intensive games. In a recent Japanese interview, Sony's Ken Kutaragi said about PSP's battery life: "A puzzle game will last longer [than four to six hours, but Ridge Racer will probably be shorter than that."'
And really, the screens aren't the major drain, the processors are.
Also, according to this test, the PSP got 3 hours 30 minutes running an action game, and 5 hours 9 minutes for a low intensity game. The only area where it scored higher than 10 hours? mp3 playback. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 27 Jun 2005
14:01 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | It really depends on the game, i played Wipeout Pure with no sound and low light for about 6-8 hours and I still had some battery left. Also running emulators off the memory stick works well. I've also gotten better results on Ridge Racers than that test.
Actually in portable devices, laptops, psp, palms, pocket pc, the screen's backlight is the biggest drain of power. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 27 Jun 2005
17:42 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | The power needed by the CPU, then the media (disks take a LOT more than carts) follow closely behind the backlight -- and depending on the size and brightness, those other items still might need more power. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
00:40 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | Where did you get these "facts"?. In this Intel article it points out how much more power (on laptops) the screen uses compared to the rest. http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2003/volume07issue02/art01_centrino/p04_battery.htm.
While laptops screens are larger, their processors are much faster (you can feel all th heat they create). Second most power (less than a third of screen) is hard drive.
I've played the PSP with intensive/non-intensive games at both 222 mhz and 333 mhz (all processors at max) and the difference is relatively small. The CPU does not use that much power. And about the UMD using the second most power, perhaps you've heard Sony CD players that last 100+ hours on one set of batteries? Sony instructed programmers not to actively load from the UMD during gameplay, that's why the UMD is spun up only for a few seconds every 5 minutes or so. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
10:40 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | Yeah what now i just checked and my PSP also has a rechargable lithiom-ion battery |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
10:52 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | According to Wikipedia, the PS has ~4 hours, and the DS anywhere from 8-16. Although I consider both of those rather off by a few hours, it's still common knowledge that the PSP doesn't get as good battery life as the DS does. |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
11:32 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | Yesterday i played my PSP (Need for Speed Underground:Rivals) for about 11.5 straight hours without charging the battry |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
11:48 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | So you woke up, played a game for the entire day without eating or stopping for a break, and then went to bed? Sounds fun. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 28 Jun 2005
14:48 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> without charging the battry
So you were running off the mains? |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
22:19 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | well yes i went to the bathroom and ate but i played the system for about 11.5 hours (you know what i mean) |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
03:34 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | O.o;
Wow... 11 hours?!? That's serious gaming... I can only play for about 3 hours max w/o getting bored. If you didn't plug it into a wall, it wouldn't make too much sense either.
Also, I've been attempting to use logic to justify my personal opinion on the DS. If you have a problem with this, I'm sorry, I can't do that much for you. I do apologize, I really do get kind of intense sometimes.
I've recently heard that the PSP will be recieving a game called "Adventure Maker", where you create your own adventure game (whatever that is... I have a decent guess). That would be reason enough for me to buy one. But right now, Kirby: Canvas Curse is keeping me entertained. :)
[Edited by JcCorp on 05-Jul-05 17:10] |
austinbelville
Marine
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
11:19 GMT
Total Posts: 39 | Yea i can get a little carred away sometimes i too apoligise. But that game you were talking about sounds cool ill have to look into it too. |
