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john777
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Posted: 26 Feb 2006
22:20 GMT
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I have an older computer that randomly emits high pitched beeping noises and I know that this usually means that the hard drive is going out but I was wondering if any one knew of a way to check or confirm if it is the hard drive.

Thanks

P.S. Congradulations on getting the forum back up.
zkostik
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
09:12 GMT
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Well, that's probably a POST error. Does the computer boot into the OS or just makes beeps while in use? If the first question seems appropriate you'll need to know the BIOS make of your computer by taking off the lid and looking for a sticker on one of the chips (often holographic), you'll also need to count the beeps in order to determine what they mean. If this happens from withing OS, it might even be a virus or some other program outputting something to the buzzer. Please be a bit more detailed with your description.

Thanks for your comment about the forum. :)

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BullFrog
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
15:02 GMT
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From how the problem is stated, it would seem as though the beeping occurs within the OS. As I remember, there are supposed to be consecutive beeps when the computer is first turned on to let you know something is wrong, not random ones.

I usually receive random beeps when I encounter errors on a computer with no sound card. Just something to check, as Z said.

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allynfolksjr
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
18:40 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I've encountered a computer that whines slightly when the CPU is under load, but I've assumed that's the fan increasing revolutions, and didn't really think of it, other than it's rather irritating. :)
zkostik
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
19:47 GMT
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Yeah allyn, that's probably cpu or psu fan clocked up due to higher heat level reached while under load. These are usually thermally controlled and will make more noise during more intensive tasks. Other thing that often makes lots of noise is the video card. If its too noisy, I'd suggest replacing your heatsinks with some aftermaker ones.

To BF, that's another possibility. Also, most computer that have a buzzer attached can beep using software (mainly for error heads up in case no speakers are attached and such). If this is the case, you can usually just turn off the beeper from sound settings (at least on most units, some however cannot be turned off like that and you may need to do some homework if your's is one of these).

I hope this kinda helps with your questions folks.

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john777
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
21:30 GMT
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Well the sound comes out when I am just using the computer (windows 2000) and the number of beeps doesn't seem to follow any kind of pattern. I think it may be something like what Allyn said where the cpu is under load. Also the beeps are very close together so it almost sounds like a constant beep but it is not. But it did seem to be coming from the hard drive. I wasn't sure where to look for the BIOS but it is a dell with a pentium 2 processor. Sorry this is a little random.

Thanks to all of you.

BTW, this is something that I tend to forget at time since I see this very rarely at my computer shop. I hope that help with your question though.

[Edited by zkostik on 28-Feb-06 07:14]
zkostik
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
22:13 GMT
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Good observation, some hdd's will produce beeps when they're about to go bad or are not feeling well. I noticed that with mainly older drives and some more recent Maxtor ones. I would suggest you make a data backup immediately and then run a thorough disc diag scan (such as Seagate SeaTools available for free on their site). Seeing that the computer is rather old, it would not be uncommon for the hdd to go on your so keep fresh backup copies of your stuff or better yet, reimage yor hdd onto a new one while it still works (would save lots of time than starting from scratch). I'd imagine your have a Quantum Fireball or something similar in that computer and the do make beeping noise when they're about to go bad. So here, now you have something fun to do and do it asap!

Edit: This is something that I see rarely and thus I tend to forget about beeping hdd's. Though, it's kinda funny to hear beeps from the hdd. I hope this info helps answering your question though.

[Edited by zkostik on 28-Feb-06 07:16]

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spiral
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Posted: 27 Feb 2006
22:58 GMT
Total Posts: 958
wow a p2, that's like 9 years old, what do you actually plan to DO with it?
Andy
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Posted: 28 Feb 2006
04:26 GMT
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>> Edit: This is something that I see rarely and thus I tend to forget about beeping hdd's. Though, it's kinda funny to hear beeps from the hdd. I hope this info helps answering your question though.

Not at all. At a LAN party a couple months ago, my friend accidentally belly-flopped his USB hard drive while it was on... It refused to turn back on, instead given a siren-ish beep when power was applied.

>> wow a p2, that's like 9 years old, what do you actually plan to DO with it?

There's plenty that can be done with P2's... I'd get into deal about how half the computers I work with at work ar P2's but I dont' have time now.

[Edited by Andy on 28-Feb-06 13:26]
john777
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Posted: 28 Feb 2006
22:00 GMT
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Thanks the information was very helpful. And I also have a pentium 1 that my dad got from his work. I don't have many plans right now but I will probably just play around on it. This used to be our regular computer but we just got an HP Pavilion with an AMD 64 processor. On account of the strange noises we decided it was time to upgrade.

Thanks again

EDIT by L: have a pentium 1, not has :) . I like fixing grammar in case you couldn't tell.

That's good gramar is very important. Feel free to correct me any time. :)

[Edited by john777 on 02-Mar-06 07:02]
john777
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Posted: 8 Mar 2006
19:40 GMT
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Just wondering what would be the best way to reimage the hard drive to a new one.

Thanks
zkostik
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Posted: 8 Mar 2006
22:57 GMT
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Norton Ghost generally does a good job, though make sure you get version 9 insteald of the crappy v.10 seen in the stores these days. Buy it online if needed. There are other Ghost like tools available but from personal experience Ghost does a good job and is one of the least expensive of the bunch while sporting a good set of features.

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john777
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Posted: 9 Mar 2006
20:44 GMT
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Sounds good thanks.
Lunchbox
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Posted: 10 Mar 2006
15:23 GMT
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Norton made a good program? I'm thoroughly impressed. The only thing my Norton antivirus has done for me is try to block harmless dls and screw with my graphics when I run certain programs.
ryantmer
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Posted: 10 Mar 2006
19:29 GMT
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It's actually not too bad for me, except that I really can't tell, as I have at least four (or possibly more, I really don't know) anti-virus programs on my computer, not including several anti-spyware/adware.
Andy
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Posted: 11 Mar 2006
08:01 GMT
Total Posts: 939
NEVER install more than one antivirus program. That's a well-known FACT. They all install kernel-level things, and they do NOT get along well with others. Your computer is a disaster waiting to happen. In fact, I wouldn't even try to uninstall them -- do a full reinstall of Windows and only install one this time.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2000031316555206
http://www.oit.umass.edu/virus/software/multiple_app.html
ryantmer
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Posted: 11 Mar 2006
10:18 GMT
Total Posts: 692
That's the thing. My computer is a disaster that has already happened. But thanks for the advice. I never knew that. ('~') It is actually possible that I don't have more than one anymore (thanks to numerous hard drive wipes and Windows reinstalls), but I know I still have Norton. x_x

P.S. Is having more than one adware/spyware program bad, too?

[Edited by ryantmer on 11-Mar-06 19:20]
threefingeredguy
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Posted: 11 Mar 2006
15:58 GMT
Total Posts: 1189
You need a processor that has virus prevention. Those are cool. I don't know how they work, or even if they work, but the thought amuses me.

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ryantmer
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Posted: 12 Mar 2006
04:21 GMT
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By "I don't know if they even work", do you mean you don't know if they exist, or that you really don't know if these processors work?
Andy
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Posted: 12 Mar 2006
07:30 GMT
Total Posts: 939
Multiple ON-DEMAND spy/adware scanners are fine... But ONLY ONE that sits there and watches over your system (for the same reasons as virus scanneres).
threefingeredguy
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Posted: 12 Mar 2006
11:10 GMT
Total Posts: 1189
They exist. My friend has one.

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spiral
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Posted: 16 Mar 2006
15:23 GMT
Total Posts: 958
the closest thing to "built-in" virus protection is the XD/NX -bit, which can at times prevent buffer overflow exploits.





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