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Digital
Guardian
Posted: 5 Apr 2006
16:45 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | In case any of you peeps care, I'm popping in with major news. It was found on Apple's website this morning (I saw it around 6:30 am PST). Apple has released Boot Camp, a piece of software, when used with the appropriate firmware for your Intel Mac (MacBook Pro, Intel Mac Mini, & Core Duo iMac), it will allow you to, without hacking either OS, to install and boot to both Windows (XP w/ SP2) and OS X (10.4.6+). This is a very big surprise for just about everyone. Enjoy.
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 5 Apr 2006
16:46 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | WOW. NEAT. |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 5 Apr 2006
18:37 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | next we will see macs sold whith windows on them. or maybe microsoft will realese a similer program so we can run mac OS on windows machines. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 5 Apr 2006
19:55 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Windows users aren't corrupted enough to let an apple OS seep into their computer's hard drive :D . |
ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 5 Apr 2006
20:39 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | Or, maybe, just maybe, Vista won't suck as much as XP, and all the people in Microsoft land will be happy again for the first time since DOS! (I'm not a fan of XP)
[Edited by ryantmer on 06-Apr-06 05:41] |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 6 Apr 2006
03:52 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | I prefer 2000 Pro myself. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 6 Apr 2006
05:36 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> or maybe microsoft will realese a similer program so we can run mac OS on windows machines.
There is NO legal way to go about that, as the ONLY way to acquire a Mac OS license is to buy a Mac. Unless Apple changes their stance, which is highly unlikely. They are a hardware company first and a software company second.
Anyway, yeah, I saw this around 1:00 yesterday in one of my classes when my friend showed me. Now I *REALLY* want my $2000 I'll need for a macbook. :x |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 6 Apr 2006
14:59 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | I have seen Windows Vista (in an article when I visited Seattle), and maybe in person soon. From what I've seen, it blows the socks off both XP and OS X. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 6 Apr 2006
19:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Getting proper drivers is anoter good surprise too. The fact of running windoze on a mac is good but the realization of that it lousy, perhaps there will be patches but since Apple said they won't support windows or boot camp who knows if they'll make improvements or get proper drivers in place. Besides, its cheaper for build a faster pc than what Apple gives you and you'd still be stuck with their proprietary game. Nonetheless, it's was fun to load windows one one of our macs at work, surprisingly mac fanboys didn't start a dispute about it either and in fact actually welcomed this (that was somewhat scary if you ask me).
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jessef
Goliath
Posted: 6 Apr 2006
21:41 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | that's interesting about not being able to buy Mac OS. that would explain the reison that apple is the only one who sells macs. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 7 Apr 2006
12:13 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Uh? You can buy Mac OS X. Though, only from certain Apple approved vendors, unlike XP which you can buy pretty much from anybody. Oh well...
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 8 Apr 2006
09:24 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | You can buy the disks, but you still don't have a license. ALL "retail" versions of Mac OS are just upgrades -- they have to install over a previous version, which makes sense if you stop and think about it.
You still don't get a license at any rate, so it's still illegal to do it. |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 8 Apr 2006
12:36 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | There is a leaked dev version of Mac OS X for intel-based CPUs. It takes some bittorrenting and dmg->iso converting, but it is a real OS built by Apple for Intel (or equivalent) SSE2 or SSE3 enabled CPUs.
And they won't need to build drivers for the Boot Camp Windows, because Boot Camp is a PC emulator and thus the computer can run any program written for the PC platform (even viruses) from x86 asm to C++. And I know that my Mac uses a video card that I once stole and put in my PC before returning it to the Mac, so most hardware is cross compatible. And even if it wasn't, it's still an emulator and probably supports the changing of hardware requests to the proper format.
Also, it won't be any (or much) slower than the original targeted audience of XP, since Macs have used 64-bit processors from OS X up, and XP is built for a slower computer. It would be slower than how it would run on a 64-bit PC, but faster than a 32-bit PC.
[Edited by threefingeredguy on 08-Apr-06 21:38]
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 8 Apr 2006
21:44 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | 1) Using that dev version IS NOT LEGAL. I'm saying there IS NO LEGAL WAY TO RUN MAC OS X ON A NON-APPLE COMPUTER.
2) Boot Camp is NOT an emulator. It, in conjunction with the firmware update (which enables BIOS emulation in the EFI), enable Windows to boot COMPLETELY NATIVELY on the hardware. ONLY on the Intel Macs. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 12 Apr 2006
16:51 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Andy, you are wrong about the "retail" version of the OS. The boxes contain full complete installs. Take it from someone who has reformatted (low level zero out) for fun. You can choose to install teh OS as an upgrade by only changing the updated files and adding the new ones, but alll of the "retail" versions contain complete OSes |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 13 Apr 2006
08:49 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | You still don't get a license for it, so it's still not legal. |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 13 Apr 2006
09:43 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Does anyone really care?? |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 13 Apr 2006
16:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | What's not legal? If you buy an os you can install it on whatever the hell you want, at least that's how I see it.
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 13 Apr 2006
16:47 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | No, you're buying the disks, not a license.
Who cares? Apple.
And I interpret discussing this the same as "where can I download ROMs", so .... |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 14 Apr 2006
10:52 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | How is it not legal? You are buying the disc, and installing it on a machine? What's different between that and installing XP on a linux box?
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 14 Apr 2006
19:00 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | EXACTLY. You are buying the DISK, not a license to use it. |
Digital
Guardian
Posted: 5 May 2006
08:16 GMT
Total Posts: 1051 | Sorry for the bump, but I'm sure there is something you're missing given the fact that you haven't installed the OS yet. There is a liscence agreement you have to agree to in order to install the OS. Now you'd probably require a product key like in Windows, but none is neccessary on our end. You are buying both a disk and the liscence |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 5 May 2006
18:00 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | At the very least, I know their EULA also stipulates that it may ONLY be run on their hardware... Though I think you still don't actually get the license with the disk... I just know it is NOT LEGAL to run Mac ON on a non-Mac. |
