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commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 13 Oct 2003
20:36 GMT
Total Posts: 9
I want to know the difference between a TI-83+SE and a Voyage 200?
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 14 Oct 2003
18:20 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
everything, the SE is cheaper, comes with more apps, and every school uses them, and there the easyest to use.

THe voyage is about 80 bucks more, it has better graphics, better calculating power, more options, better games (a definate Plus)

If you're in 10th grade down, try the 83+, but the 89 is a few dollars more...

If youre in 11+ and planning togo collage, try the voyage or 89
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 14 Oct 2003
18:38 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Yeah, but I recommed the SE, just becuase some High School teachers won't even let you use a Voyage200, I heard that this one teacher thought it was a computer . . .

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zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 14 Oct 2003
19:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
actually, they probably won't even let you use Voayge 200 in school coz stupid teachers might think its a computer. my calc mat hteach didn't even let me use my 89. she was saying i was playing games on it, like no one else in the classroom who has 83+'s wasn't playing. she never even believed me when i was programming something on it and this kind of stuff. for your first calc i'd also say go with 83+SE. it'll be easier for you to get used to, teachers will know that calc and will be able to help you if you need help and they won't think you have a weird calc and tell you to put it away. also, V200 is not authorized to be used on standardized tests like SAT or ACT because of its qwerty keyboard. go with 83+SE for now and if you like it and decide to get a second calc, then get a V200 or 89.

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Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 14 Oct 2003
21:34 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
I have nothing to add to what everyone has said. To recap:
Most teachers are biased againts the 89 and V200
If your a Sophomore or lower in High School, the 83+ SE is all you need
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 14 Oct 2003
21:39 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Yeah, and I find that if you get a Ti83+, not a Silver Edition-since it looks like a scientific calculator, most teachers like the black one better, becuase the SE looks more like a computer. It's stupid, since they're the same, but heck, teachers are stupid.
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 15 Oct 2003
15:03 GMT
Total Posts: 9
how much ram does the V200 have
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 15 Oct 2003
15:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
a 256KB chip as does the 92+ and 89. Someone who has an 83+ or 83+ SE, hook it up to the comp, open TI-Connect, and click on the Devise Information graphic. Thats how you find out. The free RAM can vary but is about 170 to 180 KB for the V200. That is enough to run Crono Fantasy on it which is the game that takes up the most RAM for the 68k calcs. I think your question whould be "How much archive does the V200 have" because things can be in the archive and still be run. In that case ~2.6 MB is the amount of archive you can squeeze out of the V200.

[Edited by Digital on 16-Oct-03 00:30]
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 15 Oct 2003
20:01 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Hey, all you guys thinking about getting a Voyage200, what class are you in? If it's a College Course, then duh, you can have it, but certain high school classes don't allow them at all, and of course, in Middle School they are confiscated as Game Boys.

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BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 15 Oct 2003
20:20 GMT
Total Posts: 623
I want it for a toy, not a calculator to use in class. (Calculus, by the way.)

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Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 16 Oct 2003
09:37 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
Well, if you don't mind paying 200 for that toy Bullfrog, the V200 beats the 83+ [SE] hands down.
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 16 Oct 2003
10:47 GMT
Total Posts: 623
I payed $120 for my 89. I think $200 shouldn't be too big of a problem, especially with Christmas and my birthday just a few months away.

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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 16 Oct 2003
14:25 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
When is your B-day?
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 16 Oct 2003
14:37 GMT
Total Posts: 623
2 weeks after Christmas - January 7th

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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 16 Oct 2003
17:43 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
Mine is also close to holidays. Feb 10. At least it does not run the risk of depriving me presents :happy:
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 17 Oct 2003
14:42 GMT
Total Posts: 9
my b-day is two days after christmas
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 17 Oct 2003
19:48 GMT
Total Posts: 739
And this has to do with calcs because????? Just Kidding, my B-day is July 30th, and thats really bad cause I'm always the youngest person in my grade!!! Grrrrr . . . .


:)
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 17 Oct 2003
21:59 GMT
Total Posts: 9
what Calc. what you get if your in 9th grade
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 18 Oct 2003
12:39 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
Grade does not matter, it is what math your in that matters. I was in Calculus in the 9th grade
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 19 Oct 2003
09:58 GMT
Total Posts: 9
The speed of the TI-83+-SE is 15Mz
what is the V200 Mz
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 19 Oct 2003
10:04 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Lucky you, Digital...I live in a hick 400 person highschool...they don't have any advanced classes here...thats why i have games...so i can survive math
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 19 Oct 2003
11:00 GMT
Total Posts: 623
I'm going to hazard a guess on the V200's processor speed. I don't remember any mention of the V200 getting a faster processor along with the extra mem, so I'll assume it is still the same processor that went into the 92+'s. If memory serves correctly, the 92+ and the 89 have the same processor, which is officially a M68k (Motorola 68000, isn't it?) running at 12MHz. (I have clocked my 89's processor at a little over 13MHz though.) Now, some may say that the SE is faster then because of the 15 MHz speed. Just remember that the processors are different and therefore can't really offer legitimate comparison.

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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 19 Oct 2003
15:46 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
YOur hazard is dead on BullFrog. But here comes the MHz game. The MC68k/M68k/68k procs are 16-bit processors as the procs in the 83/83+/83+(SE) are 8-bit. Here the proformance difference will be seen. 25% faster in MHz, yes but when it comes to proformance of teh hardware which can/will bottleneck the speed, the V200 will rise to the top. Not to mention the grayscale support and the significantly large screen. Hands down the V200 is a better calculator than the 83+ SE. If you want I can run a systematic comparison to prove this.
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 19 Oct 2003
15:48 GMT
Total Posts: 9
How do you clock your calc.
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 19 Oct 2003
18:05 GMT
Total Posts: 623
Really Digital? Sweet. As for clocking your calc... I used a program created by Greg Dietsche (spelled wrong, I'm sure) that does it for me. I don't know if there's one like it for the SE, but you could probably find one somewhere.

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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 19 Oct 2003
20:14 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Okay , a guide to age and calcs:

7 grade and lower-unless you're in Algebra, don't get a graphing calc, you don't need it at all!!!!

8th grade-unless you're in Alegebra you don't need it but teachers are more likley to accept them now.

9th grade- go with the Ti83+Silver Edition, or just the Ti83+. Most of us are all in Alegebra by now and we are starting to use them in Math . . .

10th grade-get it! Ti83,83+,SE, or 85 are okay, but the 85 might be questionable with some teachers. . . .

11th grade-same as 10th but the 85 and 86 are allowed.

12th-anything goes, unless it's a Voyage200, and some teachers might, but probably won't steal it.

College+-ANYTHING WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!

I think this is correct . . .

Correct me if I am wrong.
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 20 Oct 2003
16:05 GMT
Total Posts: 9
what is the program call and where did you get it
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 20 Oct 2003
20:42 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Um, commander, it's hard to understand exactly what you what. Are you trying to say what is the program called and where did you get it? Well, um , who's post are you refering to?
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
00:48 GMT
Total Posts: 958
if Commander is refering to the benchmark (to measure how fast) program by Greg Dietsche (i checked speeling btw). Here is the link to get TI-Benchmark:
http://calc.gregd.org/download.php?explain=1&what=tibenchmark
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
07:27 GMT
Total Posts: 739
yeah well, too bad commader can't spell . . . .
commanderbeatle2
Probe
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
14:05 GMT
Total Posts: 9
I was refering to the last message bullfrog wrote.
calculatorfreakCG can't spell commander in his last message.
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 21 Oct 2003
16:55 GMT
Total Posts: 958
Well, both of you have fine spelling for the most part. Commanderbeatle2 should work on his clarity a bit more.

I linked you to the program commander, now could everyone plz forget about any inclarities and/or spelling errors.
calculatorfreakCG
Wraith
Posted: 8 Nov 2003
10:23 GMT
Total Posts: 739
Okkies. But, as for spelling, I type fast. Why? I have things to do, and I post on just about every topic that has a star( all new topics ), so yeah, I'm in a hurry when I brose through the forums.

[Edited by calculatorfreakCG on 08-Nov-03 23:18]
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 8 Nov 2003
16:47 GMT
Total Posts: 958
wow...only like 17 days after





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