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ShockTroop Goliath Posted: 8 May 2004 11:09 GMT Total Posts: 170 | Is there a way/(short) set of commands to convert a decimal to a root fraction (such as sqrt(2)/2 or sqrt(4)/4)? |
BullFrog Wraith Posted: 8 May 2004 11:20 GMT Total Posts: 623 | On which calculator?
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allynfolksjr Administrator
Posted: 8 May 2004 18:52 GMT Total Posts: 1892 | one of the flash utils on ticalc for the 83+ has that feature... maybe onmicalc or symbolic... |
spiral Wraith Posted: 9 May 2004 00:34 GMT Total Posts: 958 | ti-89 can do it, i don't believe 83 series can though. |
ShockTroop Goliath Posted: 9 May 2004 04:48 GMT Total Posts: 170 | Oops, forgot about my calc. 83+, OS 1.16. I believe the only symbolic/omnicalc features that have to do wither square roots are the square root simplifier, which just converts something like sqrt(32) into something like 4sqrt(2). Plus I'd probably want something that's compatible with 83+ calcs that don't have the apps if it comes to that.
[Edited by ShockTroop on 09-May-04 13:49] |
zkostik Carrier
Posted: 9 May 2004 08:11 GMT Total Posts: 2486 | 83+ does not offer symbolic manipulations. all 68k calcs do though and they can simplify radicals and many otherthings for you. tho, if you can't do it by hand i wouldn't recommend you get a calc to do it for you (for obvious reasons).
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ShockTroop Goliath Posted: 9 May 2004 11:19 GMT Total Posts: 170 | Um, I think I ended up posting in the wrong forum then. This should probably belong in the programming forum, for the reason that I was going to use the commands to help make a program, and the Omnicalc command wouldn't do much in itself if no one else had the app. |
BullFrog Wraith Posted: 9 May 2004 13:06 GMT Total Posts: 623 | There's a >Frac command on the 83 Plus, under the math menu if I remember right. You could give that a try...
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spiral Wraith Posted: 9 May 2004 14:07 GMT Total Posts: 958 | fraction command is for decimals, not root numbers.
You could require omnicalc/symbolic to be installed with your program. |
zkostik Carrier
Posted: 9 May 2004 18:05 GMT Total Posts: 2486 | oh good point S, symbolic should probably do the job here. i only use my 83+ on tests (89 all other times) so i don't really put any progs on it.
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BullFrog Wraith Posted: 9 May 2004 20:43 GMT Total Posts: 623 | "You could require omnicalc/symbolic to be installed with your program."
Those programs only simplify roots.
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spiral Wraith Posted: 9 May 2004 23:39 GMT Total Posts: 958 | guess there's no way then. |
BullFrog Wraith Posted: 10 May 2004 09:26 GMT Total Posts: 623 | Lovely discussion though.
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ShockTroop Goliath Posted: 10 May 2004 12:16 GMT Total Posts: 170 | Oh poo. Maybe I should talk to the maker of OmniCalc/Symbolic. Oo, there's an idea! |
BullFrog Wraith Posted: 10 May 2004 17:41 GMT Total Posts: 623 | Why would you need to convert a decimal to a simplified root in the first place?
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Lunchbox Carrier
Posted: 10 May 2004 17:46 GMT Total Posts: 2007 | i think TI itself manufactures an app that can do that for the 83/84+. Let me see if i can find it.
EDIT: Never mind, it's not exactly what i thought it was.
[Edited by Lunchbox on 11-May-04 02:48] |
Jayhawk Dragoon Posted: 10 May 2004 22:34 GMT Total Posts: 80 | My method for solving your problem would be to take the decimal, square it or cube it or whatever power you're looking for, and then do the >Frac on it. Once you find a reasonable fraction, just do a square, cube, or some other root (the opposite of the power you did to get the fraction). Hope that helps. :) |
spiral Wraith Posted: 10 May 2004 23:56 GMT Total Posts: 958 | decimal->root fractions is quite difficult to do though, because you it all depends on rounding, as decimals always do, and there's so many roots you can do, it's (imo), too difficult to easily implement. Most of the time you'll be going from root->root (68k calcualtors) or root->decimal |