| Author | Comment |
hamptonfan98
Probe
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
06:13 GMT
Total Posts: 2 | whenever i tried to install it into my TI 84 calculator it keeps telling err:archived if anyone could help it would be appreciated.thanks |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
09:49 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Make sure ION is unarchived. use the memory menu (consult your manual about archiving and memory management) |
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
09:58 GMT
Total Posts: 310 | Any particular reason you're using Ion instead of MirageOS? |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
09:59 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Probaby because most game readmes say "Ion or 100% compatiable shell". |
hamptonfan98
Probe
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
10:18 GMT
Total Posts: 2 | i have both shells now, and have it working, thanks |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
16:12 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Lol Ray! I use ION instead of Mirage :). Though, I only have a 83+...but I'd probably stick with ION anyway. I've been using it ever since its first came out so maybe I'm just used to it, put it that way.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
17:43 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Mirage takes up about 14k's of archive that you can use for storage... |
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 19 Aug 2004
09:51 GMT
Total Posts: 310 | Presumably RAM is more precious than Archive since there's so much less of it, which is why people tend to prefer Mirage over Ion. I only mentioned it because it's simpler to install Mirage than it is for Ion. Not that installing Ion should be all that hard if you follow the directions... |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 19 Aug 2004
10:17 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah Ray, you're right here. I don't know but maybe old calc geeks tend to like doing things the hard way? I remember I kept on using DoorsOS on mu 89 for such long time that by the time I switched nearly no new program worked under it, ofcourse I then went to use UniOS until all the nostub boom came around. We should like erect a memorial to TICT for the changes they have introduces into the 68k calc world. And with Mirage btw, I don't need its extra feats so I don't use it, I do howeve have plenty of free ram and archive so in reality it makes little difference if I go and start using Mirage.
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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 19 Aug 2004
21:53 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | it's a pain to reinstall ion, and keeping it as a group is a pain in the butt too.
I used DoorsOS that was compatible with 2.05 OS, everything worked great unelss it was made for 1.x OS versions. And then I switched to PreOS once it came out, because its awesome. And TICT is great with a good explorer, and most of all ppg compression, maybe from a developer's standpoin extgraph is good.
It makes little difference for me if I use ion or mirage, because I now have 7 pdas and a gba. |
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 20 Aug 2004
10:48 GMT
Total Posts: 310 | >I don't know but maybe old calc geeks tend to like doing things the hard
>way?
Heh. Back when I was still in math courses and played calc games to kill the time there, I used a very minimalist shell for my 86. Later on I checked out the more recent version of the shell, and the author had added a bunch of features I didn't care about, so I went back right away to the old version for the sake of saving RAM. Of course half the time I skip the shell and run the game directly from the home screen with Asm( anyway. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 20 Aug 2004
21:36 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | well I still use TI-Graphlink with my serial cable (assuming I ever connect my calc, which I don't really). I'd say its easier than ti-connect. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 20 Aug 2004
21:51 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I agree with you about ti-graph link soft. I kinda like it better. But since my old gray link cable seemed to give up on me I had to get the usb link so that i can at least connect to the calc. usb link cable is btw a lot faster than the serial. i'm sure that files load at least twice as fast with usb link than they did with serial.
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 21 Aug 2004
10:44 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Yeah, the USB is about twice as fast as the serial. But the USB is also fiesty, and frequentally decides to have major link trasmission errors. So I ususally stick with the Good 'ol Graphlink cable, it always works. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 21 Aug 2004
17:14 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | To be honest, I haven't had any problems with my usb link cable ever since I got it. I'm special though :).
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diem
Probe
Posted: 23 Aug 2004
17:05 GMT
Total Posts: 4 | What the heck is an ion shell?
I have MirageOS on my TI-83, but my friend erased all the games there somehow. So I put a Donkey Kong game and this Logarithms program. Is ion better or what?
Come to think of it, what the heck is a shell in the first place?
Also, are Mario Levels games or what?
I am in despair because I cannot find my computer link cable thingie to download all the cool games I found on this site. I want to play Mario but I can't-ARRGH! :img17: |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 23 Aug 2004
22:27 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | No, ION is not better than Mirage feature-wise. It was just made wayy before Mirage came out so some of us old calc nerds are just more used to it. It is 14kb smaller than Mirage but it only lets you run programs and doesn't have all the nice feats of Mirage. Those 14kb of memory don't really matter much if you're running a 84 series calc or 83+SE. They do matter for 83+ users tho. Its more of a matter of preference here. Btw, it sucks about your link cable. You better find it soon! :)
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diem
Probe
Posted: 24 Aug 2004
00:25 GMT
Total Posts: 4 | Is it impossible to run a program with an ion shell on Mirage? |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 24 Aug 2004
04:07 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | MirageOS is completely ION-compatable, and you can run ION programs on it. They should run perfectly. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 24 Aug 2004
11:35 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Actually, no.
There are some games that only run in ION, and cause mirageOS to lock up when you try to run them. AirHawk and a AOL-throwing game come to mind.... |
diem
Probe
Posted: 25 Aug 2004
17:28 GMT
Total Posts: 4 | Lock up?
Can someone inform me on what in the world is Nostub, Ion, etc? Where do you get them?
Also, the word "Tron" came up a lot. What's that?
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taylorchase
Marine
Posted: 25 Aug 2004
17:31 GMT
Total Posts: 32 | ion is a shell used to run asm programs |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 25 Aug 2004
17:55 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Tron 2.0 is a cool PC game, and Tron is also a movie....and tron is also a game for the 89. Nostub is a program that requires no shell or Kernal to run, for the 68k series calculators... |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 26 Aug 2004
17:29 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Tron was also a sucessful arcade game- better than the movie.
and yeah, i guess you are right about MirOS's ION compatability, i forgot about those ION programs that edit the ION menu. |
