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mikwit
Probe
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
13:32 GMT
Total Posts: 1
I'm new to this forum, but i have been looking around and have seen how bad hays game company is, and while reading their new news article today have decided to take them up and start the petitionHays game comany news: " If you can organize and submit to us by this Friday (July 8th), a petition containing over 100 individual and unique signatures stating that you wish for Hays to leave the Ti-Community, then we will do so for good with no questions asked."So I have decided to start said petition at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/nohays please sign it to try and stop them, and spread the word

[Edited by mikwit on 05-Jul-05 22:40]
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
13:56 GMT
Total Posts:

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Interesting... I may want to use that site, it's really cool.

And it doesn't matter if you get 100 people to sign it, I doubt they would leave anyways.
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
14:12 GMT
Total Posts: 939
Wow, someone actually be me to the punch. *signs*
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
14:37 GMT
Total Posts: 29
OK, posted frontpage Cemetech news about this:http://cemetech.designerz-core.com/news.shtml?151. TI-Freak8x first PMed me to alert me too it, and at least 5 Cemetech members have spoken out against them so far.
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
14:49 GMT
Total Posts: 939
I'm not going to go as far as post front-page news here -- I considered it for a minute and decided against it. If any of the other admins or SCMs wish to do so, by all means do so. I just don't think it's quite that important. (at least, it's not something we should be advertising on our front page -- "hey we utterly despise you, have a nice day kthx".)
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
15:07 GMT
Total Posts: 29
:lol: I know what you mean, I usually have the same policy, but I thought this warranted it. :)
JumptheGun
Dragoon
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
16:23 GMT
Total Posts: 56
I'm wonder if anyone else think that Hays Games is going into hiding only to resurface again?
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
16:31 GMT
Total Posts: 29
Go into hiding? I severely doubt they'll even disappear at all, even with the 100+ sigs.
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
16:36 GMT
Total Posts: 939
It's still worth a shot... Now, if we can find some way to legally force them to adhere to their word (unlikely)... That'd be awesome. :) Someone might want to get a copy of their front page notorized asap.
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
17:22 GMT
Total Posts:

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Y'know what? I've heard the full thing, finally. May I ask why he/they isn't/aren't banned?

Holy crap, there are 60+ things already... Hays has swallowed a lot more than he can stomach.
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
17:45 GMT
Total Posts:

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Well, I signed the petition, number 70...
JumptheGun
Dragoon
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
17:48 GMT
Total Posts: 56
Funny 70+ on the first day

Hays is going down
:lol_a:
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
18:18 GMT
Total Posts: 939
Jc, "they". Used in quotations as I'm not actually sure if there is more than one person to it.

As for not banning them, they haven't done anything to deface the forums (to my knowledge) (unlike some people)... So no point. We can always just reject the files. Of course, what with guest submissions that might not be as easy as it sounds.
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 5 Jul 2005
18:39 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
That's right, we tolerate everyone, unless they really go off the deep end.
Morgan
Ultralisk
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
19:07 GMT
Total Posts: 321
I'm pissed. I just wasted 4 minutes reading all this crap....shit now another writing this
zkostik
Carrier
avatar
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
23:48 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Umm...what exactly is the point of this?

Oh, that sorta reminds me of cleansing the world of CalculatorFreak's website which was fun. I got Yahoot to shut it down on a couple of hours after my nice letter. :)

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greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
05:45 GMT
Total Posts: 199
Even though I never tried Hays "software" I signed anyway. I think that "they" are really one, as I cannot understand why such horrid BASIC programs require more than one person to code (dont see how that can even be efficient)... but if it's true they stole code, I think ticalc should simply remove their programs from the archives, and they should only advance as far as their idiotic Geocities page...

EDIT: OK, I guess there were more than one person at one time running the freak show: 1999 ticalc newsletter

[Edited by greenorange on 06-Jul-05 15:19]
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
07:12 GMT
Total Posts: 29
Really? I was going to guess it was just one really annoying person...
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
09:41 GMT
Total Posts: 507
ooh... sig 103! i think they'd better honor that *worthless* promise

i would add some more, less appropriate text in this post, but im not in the mood to get flayed by an Admin for "inappropriate language" etc...
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 6 Jul 2005
13:25 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
ok, it signed it too. personally i don't really care about them so i'll just help you guys out.

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TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
15:51 GMT
Total Posts:

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Wait, the signature goal was 100 before, but now it is 1000? What is up with that?
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
16:18 GMT
Total Posts: 939
He changed that in case it would stop accepting them when it hit 100.
Xero Xcape
Marine
avatar
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
16:33 GMT
Total Posts: 29
GARGH!!!! YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME REALLY MAD..... Don't you people get it?!?!? They will never go away! stop trying and completely ignore them then will they truly dissappear, one is only present if another pays attention...

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BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
17:30 GMT
Total Posts: 623
If this doesn't work, ignore them. If whoever is behind Hays or whatever sees that they no longer get attention for what they're doing, they'll most likely stop. I do like Xero Xcape's comment, though, about how someone is only present if they're paid attention to... Not entirely true, but it works.

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zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 6 Jul 2005
20:28 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
I know that petition is meaningless but its a fun way to show how people dislike Hays. :) 128 votes so far!
Even if their site gets kicked off Geocities, they can always go and put it up somewhere else if they decide to. Oh well... As with attention, petitioning actually brings them more attention, even if not very good.

Number went to 140 in about an hour. This is freaky...

[Edited by zkostik on 07-Jul-05 07:15]

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haysgames
Marine
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
22:28 GMT
Total Posts: 20
fun fact: hays has not 'pirated' a calculator program in over six years. hays has never seeked to profit off of someone elses work. for the last several years hays has kept its head up and taken the high ground while countless community haters have attempted to bash it into the ground.

no big deal, just think about the facts. and good luck with the petition.
allynfolksjr
Administrator
avatar
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
22:44 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
*ahem* Just six months ago you were complaining that Joe P stole your programs.
allynfolksjr
Administrator
avatar
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
23:17 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
You know, I just figured out that your "company" name isn't a person's, but a town in Kansas.
haysgames
Marine
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
00:35 GMT
Total Posts: 20
lol yea
we got the idea after downloading 'aurora' for the regular ti-83 and figured bill nagel named it after a town. so we started hays
JumptheGun
Dragoon
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
05:53 GMT
Total Posts: 56
See you can't help taking other people's ideas
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
07:53 GMT
Total Posts: 199
Yea I noticed that, considering it couldnt be a name of a person, otherwise it would be Hay's or Hays' games. But then again, mirroring Bill Nagels idea was a pretty idiotic thing to mention :-/
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
07:57 GMT
Total Posts: 465
Read the news for "July 6th" http://www.geocities.com/haysgames/ we could find out all the secrects of Hays games!!! Come on! Everyone sign!

[Edited by korkow on 07-Jul-05 17:00]
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
08:06 GMT
Total Posts: 507
they released "the true story"... and its a sad one... THEY were NPO and Hays... gaah...
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
08:14 GMT
Total Posts:

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Wow, they really were pathetic.
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
08:21 GMT
Total Posts: 507
it makes me realize something: all humans are inherently stupid... some more than others...

on the plus side, i should be getting a free memory key soon :)
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
12:55 GMT
Total Posts: 465
Wow, by the end of it, I swore he was going to say "Goodbye world" and commit suicide. Seriously
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
13:45 GMT
Total Posts: 507
it sickens me... im sorry... they really hurt the TI community, and they really dont give a damn... they thought it was hilarious...
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
14:20 GMT
Total Posts:

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He would have just waited a few months and started back up again. That might even happen anyways...
darksideprogramming
Guardian
avatar
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
14:31 GMT
Total Posts: 1005
Yeah, I just got done reading their farewell section of their site. Pure BS. If you ask me, they'll resurface again.
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
14:43 GMT
Total Posts:

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I agree with you. You can find some real amusing things about them on Ed Fry's site though... :) http://fryedsoft.calc.org
haysgames
Marine
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
16:20 GMT
Total Posts: 20
lol
this is the last post from hays on this forum, don't bother attempting to get a response from us.

Again i would like to urge calcgames.org to delete our account and our files from your archive. We have sent a similar e-mail request to the archivers at ticalc.org.

To the people who think we are coming back, please give it a rest. In the long run you are only making a fool out of yourselves. The popular parody group 'hays games company' is over, just let it die. what was posted at our site is true, if you don't want to believe it or if lieing to yourself makes you feel better tho, be my guest. doesn't bother me any.

it might be hard for somebody to accept that a group that they believed to be a true band of ignorant code stealers has really been pulling a prank over their eyes for seven years. we even put as a disclaimer at the bottom of all our sites that it was simply a joke, but it's really not a big deal. you can either live with hate or you can accept the fact and move on with your lives. why let something that was a joke get the better of you, it just doesn't make sense.

Ed Fry seems to be everyone's hero because of his amusing article. But I am sure Ed has the common sense to know the joke is over.

Oh well, just my two cents. If you wanted us to go away, we are. If you wanted closure, we attempted to give closure via the petition. If you want us to come back just so you have something to hate because you are not satisfied with yourself, then I'm sorry but am unable to help you there. try finding god and the good lord jesus christ, they really help.

I am only posting because i think it's sad how some people are not able to let go. some people think we 'hurt' the community when they are the ones trying to keep this thing alive.

so again, just let it die, and i urge the calcgames.org staff to help put this thing to rest once and for all by closing our account and deleting our files. probably should lock this thread too. its over kids, sorry.
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
17:02 GMT
Total Posts:

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What is harder for me to accept is the fact that someone would want to play a joke so sick on a whole group of people, even innocent bystanders. Would you kidnap a small child and put his parents through all of the worry? Well, maybe that metaphor is a little too extreme, but a lot of people still won't forgive you.

By the way, I'm sure many members of this community will be glad not to hate anyone. I know I am glad that there are decent people here, and that the few people that would actually pick fights are at least smart about it and know when to apologize and forgive. You, however, have lied and cheated up the mountain of your infamy, and have learned this all too late. I was glad I wasn't really around when you were at your "prime". I hope your conscience bothers you. As for me, well, I don't know you personally, so I can't hate any of you, but anyways, I can hate your actions.

I really wish you would read this, but I know you probably never will see this.
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
17:13 GMT
Total Posts:

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Woohoo! Moved up a rank! lol
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
20:35 GMT
Total Posts: 465
Ti Freak, what are you talking about...
allynfolksjr
Administrator
avatar
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
20:41 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Author stats, I suppose.
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 10 Jul 2005
07:58 GMT
Total Posts:

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Yeah, Hays programs were deleted, so everyone ranked 26 and up moved up a rank... :)
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 12 Jul 2005
10:29 GMT
Total Posts: 507
oh well... too bad that isnt me :)

ah well... good to be rid of them...
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 12 Jul 2005
13:09 GMT
Total Posts:

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Aw... oh well, I guess being 12 (about 30 d/ls from 11!!!) is good enuf... wait... why do I even have that many downloads??
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 12 Jul 2005
17:08 GMT
Total Posts: 507
cuz people like ur stuff... duh...
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 13 Jul 2005
05:25 GMT
Total Posts: 199
If my programs at CG worked / actually downloaded, I probably would be interested in the stats, too :P


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