| Author | Comment |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
13:12 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | I don't know if I should say this because of the fact that all kinds of people come here and I know someone kight get mad at me for saying this but people please keep the Pope of the catholic church in your prayers as he is in a very critical condition and is no longer conscious. I really think everyoneone should keep him in their prayers. please :img25: |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
13:41 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | yeah... im a christian too, and i really dont know if it is proper to discuss religion here...
either way, i hope he gets better (not alot of probability of it happening, but he has been around a while) |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
14:01 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | for all those who aren't christians please just at hope that he gets better I know its a very slim chance but that's way I'm here saying this :img25: |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
14:25 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I don't see anything wrong with that, but that isn't really my authority to decide that.
Just keep optimistic. :) |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
14:36 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | true...im not catholic, but i realize how important the Pope is to the christian world... |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
14:57 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | There is nothing wrong in discussing this, nor will there be any problems that I can foresee with this topic, as long as you don't start yelling at each other. |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
15:09 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | I won't yell at anyone I just want people to pray for the pope even i his chances are well not very large |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
15:32 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | well then, look at the front page... if it can be there, it can be here... |
zedd
Ultralisk
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
16:55 GMT
Total Posts: 428 | there's nothing wrong w/ it..... everyone deserves to live, especially when it's someone who is so influential to not just catholic... the pope has been good to lots of people including Jews.
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and on another totally unrelated note.......
je suis quoi je suis....... do u know french? just a reference for some time in the future if u can help in some of my french stuff. I can't seem to get it.. i got a 75 on my last quiz.....
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Na + H2O = Keanu Reeves........WOW |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
16:58 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | yeah... i hope the pope doesnt die... he is old though... in any case, im praying... |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
17:04 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | No, Im not catholic, but I am Christian. *Peeks over at the news* Sorry to say this, but I do expect hime to :dead: tonite :(
[Edited by korkow on 02-Apr-05 03:05] |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
17:14 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | true enough... but still... i wasnt going to say it... |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
17:19 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | i am catholic and im glad to see that everyone is banding together for this. Im glad that you all feel this way. i know that his kidneys have failed, and i agree, he will probly die very very soon. we should all hope (and pray if you want) that he gets better and if he cant, that he at least doesnt suffer.
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Someone call for an exterminator? |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
20:35 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Also, mainly remember to pray for a peaceful passing rather than for him to live, because he is (I don't mean to be disrespectful) obviously going to die VERY soon.
I will check the news first thing in the morning for an update
Goodnight,
-Korkow
[Edited by korkow on 02-Apr-05 06:35] |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 1 Apr 2005
22:01 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | My prayers of safe parting go to the pope as well. |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
11:34 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | yeah I know most everyone says he's going to die so please just pray that he dies peacefully
yes this is totaly unrelated but yes zedd I do take french as a matter of fact although je suis quoi je suis is bad grammer but the proper way of saying it is je suis quel je suis but that was taken on aim and I was too lazy to think of something else so voila by the way it means "I am what I am" and If you would like I could help you but I don't think this exact thread is the right place to talk about this how about you IM me although I've only just finished french 1 and I don't know where you are so yeah just IM me |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
12:05 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | rest in peace Pope John Paul II :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: :img25: |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
12:07 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | on the news last night, they said that he might be made a saint... now we just need some miracles (literally, the person has to perform miracles after death apparently) |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
12:41 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | yes I believe he WILL be made a Saint but no there do not have to be any miracles for him to become one
[Edited by je suis quoi je suis on 02-Apr-05 22:43] |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
12:48 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | yes, the first miracle gets the person (forgot the word), and the second makes them eligible to be a saint...that, or ABC lies on the evening news... |
je suis quoi je suis
Marine
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
13:00 GMT
Total Posts: 22 | woops I'm wrong
I just checked with my mom I just didn't thihnk they would HAVE to have miracles :img27: |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
14:15 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Miracles ARE needed to make someone a saint. I believe they are canonized first. Or canonization is the process for becoming a saint, I can't remember. I learned a bit about this in a Joan of Ark report I did a few years back. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 2 Apr 2005
14:41 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | 1) Canonization is the proceess of becoming a saint
2) Canonization usually takes ALOT of time (after death) for the decision process, etc.
3) Joan of Arc
4) Don't need miracles to become a siant, but it wouldn't hurt.
[Edited by Lunchbox on 03-Apr-05 00:41] |
Jayhawk
Dragoon
Posted: 3 Apr 2005
16:08 GMT
Total Posts: 80 | There are two steps to becoming a saint.
The first step is beatification. Two miracles are required for this. At this point, the person is referred to as blessed. The second step is canonization which requires evidence of additional miracles. For both of these, it must also be shown that the person emulated the life of Christ in his or her life. I doubt it will be too difficult to find a few miracles attributed to Pope John Paul II. After all, under this Pope, more saints were canonized than under any other Pope. There are many miracles attributed to people, even today. One of the more famous people to be made a saint in recent memory is Saint Pio of Pietrelcina who has numerious miracles attributed to him, in addition to being a stigmatist. He lived in the 20th century and science was unable to explain many miracles attributed to him, nor the stigmata he had for 50 years.
One of the things that will without a doubt be considered is the Pope's forgiving of the man who shot him. Also, the Pope's efforts to oppose communism and to reach out to people in all parts of the world will certainly help his cause. The Pope's efforts as a young man to become a preist while Poland was controlled by the Nazis will be used to support him as well. He actively opposed the Nazis in a peaceful way through theater. I would expect that the Pope's battling of Parkinson's disease will be considered as well. He lived 19 years with the disease and it did not slow down his travel and his efforts to reach out to the world and bring peace.
I would be surprised if Pope John Paul II isn't canonized.
And I certainly think it's appropriate to discuss these things here. I certainly think the news about the Pope was more important than any April Fools joke. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 3 Apr 2005
16:11 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | I agree with Redux, everything he said in his essay. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 4 Apr 2005
13:33 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | that was very well put. i think he deserves sainthood, after all the good he has done... but that is just me...(and several of you from the looks of it) |
