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DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
14:00 GMT
Total Posts: 35
I just bought an 89 Titanium, and I wanna get started with using TI connect. I have a question concerning the USB cable...

When I connected the Titanium to the computer using the USB cable, the calc turned on when it was previously turned on. I would like to know if it is now running off of the battery power in the calculator itself, or USB power from the comp?
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
14:12 GMT
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Ummm... USB power?

It is still on the battery power.
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
14:29 GMT
Total Posts: 35
oh ok, thx.

btw, in that first post, i meant to say, "...the calc turned on when it was previously turned OFF" ; oopsies on me :img29:

yeah, USB power. you know, like how mp3 players and thumb drives work? usb can provide a certain amount of voltage to the device it's connected to. :sunglasses2:

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 03-Feb-05 23:42]
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
14:49 GMT
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Well, the only reason I know that was because my batteries kinda dropped dead on my calc once when it was plugged in with a USB port, and it was updating the OS...
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 3 Feb 2005
16:04 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Yeah, the USB provides power, but it depends on the hub itself on how much it can supply. Like a USB keyboard with a plug for another device on one end wouldn't supply much power, compared to, say, a self-powered USB hub, which would provide quite a lot of juice.
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
19:24 GMT
Total Posts: 35
damn JC, that sux about the ur batteries dying. hope ya managed to reinstall the OS okay.

and that's true Ally, i forgot about hubs that use their own adapter. u think if i connect the calc via an external hub (therefore more juice) then the calc will switch to usb power?
Midnight Walker
Marine
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
19:36 GMT
Total Posts: 21
No. I'm pretty sure the port on TI Calcs aren't equipped to recieve power and information.
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 3 Feb 2005
19:37 GMT
Total Posts: 35
yea, i thought so
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 3 Feb 2005
20:54 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I would certainly hope that USB port on TI calculators that are equipped with them can receive information!
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 4 Feb 2005
05:30 GMT
Total Posts: 35
lol, i think he meant power and information at the same time :yum_a:

another problem.. i sent tetris.89z to my calc, tried running it, and nothing happens. i entered "tetris()" in the entry line. what am i doing wrong?!
Xero Xcape
Marine
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Posted: 4 Feb 2005
06:34 GMT
Total Posts: 29
The 89 has an advantage, a USB batt pack (like for your mp3 player will power the unit, while the mini headphone jack can recive or send info, plus there's all kinds of conversion units for the jack.

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BASIC flames are for n00bs, you don't want to be a n00b do you? | My other calc is a Porsche.
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 4 Feb 2005
10:20 GMT
Total Posts: 310
>another problem.. i sent tetris.89z to my calc, tried running it, and
>nothing happens. i entered "tetris()" in the entry line. what am i doing
>wrong?!

Check the game's documentation/readme. You may need a kernel or something.
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 4 Feb 2005
10:22 GMT
Total Posts: 465
To run your games, just go to the varlink (2nd-minus) and select the game, then just add the other parenthase. (by the way, I think it is actually called tetris89()
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 4 Feb 2005
15:57 GMT
Total Posts: 35
i dunno what is going on here... :questioned_a:

every program i try to run, nothing happens. the first program i ran (eqman) ran fine, but then no others will work now. when i try to run them, it just pastes it into the history window and that's it.

since i ran EqMan, the calc is displaying 'eqman' in the lower-left corner of the screen all the time now. what is this, and does this have anything to do with my other programs not runnin?
Lunchbox
Carrier
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Posted: 4 Feb 2005
21:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2007
That is probably an error that was caused by a malcoded assembly or C program (don't know which eqman is). Your best bets would either be to reset all your memory, or, if you dislike that idea, find a kernel that restores your system after a crash, i think there are a few nice ones here on calcgames.
bcherry
Dragoon
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Posted: 4 Feb 2005
21:54 GMT
Total Posts: 61
Just archive everything you want to save, and then hit 2nd, left, right, and On at once to reset. Then try again. I would also go get preOS and install that too.
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 5 Feb 2005
07:58 GMT
Total Posts: 35
wow guys, thanx for the help. i believe EqMan was indeed the culprit. i resetted the calc, then put back the progs i want (NOT eqman), and now they run fine. :lol:
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 5 Feb 2005
08:00 GMT
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Wow. A lot can happen when you ignore a topic for a day...

My OS was fixed, don't worry. It was on my 83+ years ago, I think when I had only recently installed TI-Connect. ah, memories...
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 5 Feb 2005
09:24 GMT
Total Posts: 35
also, i was wondering if someone knows of a nice interface program for the 89Ti. i had Rascall on my 86 and i liked it alot. is there anything like that for the 89Ti?
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 5 Feb 2005
09:46 GMT
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Umm, your main problem was when you ran the first program, it was in a folder called eqman. The author of that file forgot to have the program reset the folder back to main. I have had troubles like this before. It could still be a corrupt file, though I think the folder was the main culprit...

And while on the subject of the 89, if you want some awesome games, check out the programming group, Time to Team. Their games are mind boggling... :)
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 6 Feb 2005
12:03 GMT
Total Posts: 35
oh i see. i knew the 89 has folders and stuff, but i dunno how to navigate through them. is there a way to set the folder back to 'main', like you said, without using a program? and can u browse through folders maunally?
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 6 Feb 2005
12:32 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
You can use "mode" to change your current folder, also, there is a home screen command that I know exists that can change the folder, but I seem to have forgotten what it is...
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 6 Feb 2005
13:08 GMT
Total Posts: 35
ok thanx, that works. that woulda saved me from clearing the mem on my calc, but oh well lol

and like i was saying before, i was wondering if someone knows of a nice interface program for the 89Ti. i had Rascall on my 86 and i liked it alot. is there anything like that for the 89Ti?

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 06-Feb-05 23:21]
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 6 Feb 2005
21:49 GMT
Total Posts: 35
another thing... i'm trying to make a program that deals with vectors in space. the thing is, i need to have the calc in parametric form AND in a 3-dimensional coordinate system. i go to 'mode' and i can choose between parametric and 3-d, but i need both. in other words, i need x, y, and z all in terms of the parameter T. can anyone tell me how to set the mode or whatever that will allow me to do this?
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 6 Feb 2005
23:24 GMT
Total Posts: 35
ok, forget that last thing, i think i can work around it. however, i now have a noobish issue with the programming... i want to prompt the user to enter 3 values (functions of T) for 3 different variables. I then want to perform computations with these variables, including computing derivatives (and 2nd derivs), and then making a vector (1-dimensional matrix).

well i wrote some code, and thought it would work, but i am getting an error saying "must be variable name" at the spot where i am trying to compute, for example x' (x prime, or the derivative of x). this is the code i wrote:

Prompt x,y,z
x'/(x'^2+y'^2+z'^2)^(ª1)/2»tangx
y'/(x'^2+y'^2+z'^2)^(ª1)/2»tangy
z'/(x'^2+y'^2+z'^2)^(ª1)/2»tangz
[tangx,tangy,tangz]»unittang

i don't mean to be a pain, just trying to learn to use the 89Ti, so plz get back to me when u can.
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 7 Feb 2005
11:43 GMT
Total Posts: 35
alright, forget that, yet again. i realized you gotta use the d() command to find derivatives, and not the shorthand " ' " symbol. i'm used the 86, so now i gotta familiarize myself with this 89Ti. all is good for now, but i'm sure i'll be back when i hit another wall... :img02:
Barrett
Administrator
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Posted: 7 Feb 2005
12:11 GMT
Total Posts: 1676
Well, even though you've figured it out...

the ' or "prime" symbol does not necessarily refer to a derivative. It can refer to an alternate x (if you were saying x'), or something to do with x. For example, if I had two similar triangles, with sides a b and c on one triangle, I could refer to the "similar" sides as a' b' and c'.

So as you've already figured out, the calculator cannot know what that means.

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-Barrett A
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 7 Feb 2005
14:21 GMT
Total Posts: 35
that's true, i forgot it had multiple purposes

EDIT: this is actually shaping up to be a pretty good program. it deals with vectors in space, and so far it can find:
tangent and normal vectors
components of acceleration
arc length and curvature
i will try and keep adding features, and i may even see if i can upload it here sometime down the road.

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 08-Feb-05 05:12]
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 9 Feb 2005
20:27 GMT
Total Posts: 35
okay, well the prog is done, as of now, but since i am not even halfway done with my calc.3 course, i'm sure there' gonna be some formulas etc. that i'll be adding.

as of now, the features of the prog include:
-- various products and uses of products with vectors
...... dot product
...... cross product
...... triple scalar product
...... angle between two vectors
...... projection of one vector onto another
-- conversions between coordinate systems
...... between rectangluar and polar in the plane
...... between rectangular, cylindrical, and spherical in space
-- derivatives
...... finding velocity vector
...... finding acceleration vector
-- tangent vectors and normal vectors
...... unit tangent vector
...... unit normal vector
...... tangential component of acceleration
...... normal component of acceleration
-- arcs
...... length of an arc
...... curvature of an arc

EDIT: if any1 is interested in this program, just lemme know how to go about uploading this thing. :lookaround_a:

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 10-Feb-05 05:28]
Lunchbox
Carrier
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Posted: 9 Feb 2005
21:27 GMT
Total Posts: 2007
Try the submit files button on the navbar on your left :) .
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 10 Feb 2005
10:13 GMT
Total Posts: 35
oh, i forgot about that. i have this discussion's frame open in a new window, so i don't have the other calcgames.org frames displayed. now, on to the uploading...

...i went to the 'submit files' page, and filled it out and everything, and it said 'successful'. then i tried searching the site for my prog, but it isn't there. will i get some kinda e-mail notification when it's ready, or do i just gotta wait a few days, or what?

EDIT: misspelled 'discussion' :yum_a:

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 10-Feb-05 19:14]
DrumMajor33
Marine
Posted: 10 Feb 2005
18:02 GMT
Total Posts: 35
ok, the prog is successfully uploaded. i guess it just takes a few hours. if any1 is interested, check it out. i'd like to see what you experienced folks think of it. tell me what you think of it.

[Edited by DrumMajor33 on 14-Feb-05 03:54]





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