| Author | Comment |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
17:06 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | Only about 3 1/2 months old, but have a look: Create-a-Calculator Contest.
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"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 11 Jun 2005
22:21 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Nice, if I had time, I'd enter. I do kinda have some plans drawn up for a calc I'd like to see in the near future, but it is not exactly cost-efficient :-/. |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
06:24 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | The problem is, Im not even a high-schooler, and even if I was, I'd only win a 39g+ :( |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
13:51 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | blah... Cemetech already went through making one... they're over there coming up with the stuff to make a prototype... but theirs is like a pocket PC/calc that can emulate the entire z80 and 68k lines... its gonna be awesome... |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
14:02 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Only thing is, I've seen tons of half assed projects to come from cemetech, and never seen one actually built, or works. Even their shell or whatever it is, I tried it yesterday on a 83+. Only problem is, it crashed constantly and I never did get it to run a program. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
14:08 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | DCS5? i'm one of the beta testers... i have only found one bug, and that one shouldve been fixed in the last update... and it runs programs fine for me, considering im using it to help with tifreak8x's archive project...
as to half assed projects, we all do those... they Red Edition/Blue Edition is coming along ok, though god only knows if it will be made... |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
14:22 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | All I know is that if a shell doesn't work on a 83+ no matter what I do, I see no reason in switching to it, or promoting it. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 12 Jun 2005
17:21 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> or promoting it.
*/dev/null's an email* |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
06:32 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | im sorry, i hate to seem argumentative, but for one thing, i still prefer MirageOS to Dcs, no matter what he puts in it. For another, if it doesnt work, what error do you get? (on an 83+, you run PrgmADCS, which is TI-BASIC, not ASM... thats the problem most reported, people trying to run a BASIC file as ASM...)
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
07:25 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Yeah, MOS is just easier for people by now. |
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
12:26 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | Thanks for your support, Alex. And AllynfolksJr, I'm sorry you feel that way. Perhaps you had a beta version, since I only just released the final 5.0 version? |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
12:29 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | It was the version that was linked to on your Press Release. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
12:42 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Off the record (ie, this coming from me as a person not me as a CG staff member), I feel you are way too self-centered and self-rightgeous. You blatantly disregarded Wikipedia's rules when you made articles about Doors CS and Cemetech (both of which have been deleted). Just the THOUGHT of you trying to get this released on /. makes me sick. Who cares? It's a shell that doesn't do anything more than ION does, and wastes a lot of space trying to do it (which it doesn't). I remember back when you "made" ASM programs or whatever, but you even claimed to have never tried to compile them. I just hope Doors CS isn't like that, where you write the code, assemble it, and stamp a release-quality seal on it. Also, either get your &*%!ing site out of the ti-news conglomorate, or stop using it as a blog! Doors CS 5 barely deserves a 0.9 version number. I stuck it on my calculator, and it ran a few programs fine. Then I went to try Phoenix. It immediately caused a RAM reset. Any shell that does that when just STARTING a program immediately deserves to be deleted from existence. Also, you can't POSSIBLY expect a large userbase without MirageOS program compatibility -- which you can't do until you make it an App (at which point, I wouldn't dare test it on a real calculator -- I'd only use PindurTI). The interface of Doors could use some help too -- the mouse is less than fun, and having to click icons (with the mouse) to quit or power down is a pain in the arse. I know that's a bit harsh, but it's truely how I feel. Other admins, feel free to edit for language if I went a bit overboard... Just another reminder that the ideas contained in this post are solely of the poster, and are not a reflection upon the calcgames.org policy. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
12:59 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | wow... thats brutal... i dont have words to describe this sort of thing... i kinda like Kerms work, he has helped me out quite a bit in the past with my programming endeavors...
Dcs is a bit flawed, and i kinda think the mouse should be part of an external GUI, but it is kinda fun to screw around with... (i just said "kinda" twice in one sentence... time to get some more school time...)
anyway... it does have issues, thats true, but its better than, say, Mouse1.0... |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
13:08 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | For the record, after you sent the email to Andy, and he forwarded it to the rest of the staff, we did test the program that was linked to in the Press Release. Multiple people, using both an actual calculator and emulators, loaded the program. However, for only one person did Doors actually run an external program. Personally, I loaded it onto a 83+ (OS 1.18) that I had floating around. So I ran the program (ACDS, IIRC), it loaded and gave me some sort of graphical interface. I believe I ran a program, (ztris), and it popped up with a "Error 503." So I tried another program and it gave the same error. So I figured I'd close doors, clear the ram, and resend it.
Okay, not reading the manual, I figured "Clear" might exit the program. I suppose that wasn't a good guess, as it seemed to be the "crash on command" key. But I still resent the program to my freshly erased calculator (which I have to give doors credit for, it knew I wanted my ram cleared). Ran Doors again, still continued to give an Error 503.
So we did consider posting an article about it. But after testing, the results were less than encouraging. Perhaps another round of beta testing is in order before a release. Also, one more point, it's generally a good idea to submit a program to a site if you want it to be featured. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
13:11 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | >>So I ran the program (ACDS, IIRC),
IIRC????? where did that come from? the 83+ version contains ADCS and ZDCS... is IIRC a game or something? (im lost now) |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
13:13 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | For an addendum to the record, I only forwarded it to the people on the news staff mailing list.
Also, I am CERTAIN I was using the final release version.
IIRC == If I Recall Correctly
[Edited by Andy on 15-Jun-05 22:17] |
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
13:44 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | You'll notice that I sent that email before the official release date. It clearly said in the Press Release that I _would_ (future tense) be releasing it on Tuesday. This implies that it was not yet finished. The 503 error you are describing was indeed fixed by the final release; this extra Ion error that apparently occurs only on 1.18 and 1.14 with ~20% of Ion programs is something that has only been brought to my attention today. I am researching it at the moment and appreciate feedback on my projects, as long as people are cordial about it. If you would like to provide me with feedback directly, I would find that helpful.http://cemetech.designerz-core.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247 |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
14:08 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | I don't know about the others, but I tested it AFTER the release. At any rate, you should have caught that horrible ION bug before the release.
And what I said about your personal ... behavior still stands. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
14:14 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | http://ti-news.net/viewthread.php?id=00000377
^ ahh... different opinions :)
gaah... can the flames end now? |
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
14:32 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | Whoa, excuse me, self-centered and self-righteous? Where are you getting that from? And what is this about you claiming I make Conglomerate a private blog? I post news articles about Cemetech projects and advancements along with the extremely rare (i.e. one) joke news item, and that makes Conglomerate my blog?!
I don't mind your criticism of Doors CS, in fact I feel it's contructive for people to provide both positive and negative feedback, but I feel personal attacks are completely unjustified. |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
14:40 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | *SIGH*
Wow, this will bring alot of programmers to calcgames.org.
*New Programmer*
"Wow look at that, I don't want my game to be flamed like that, maybe I should go else where..."
The way the posts are sounding here, it is starting to sound like TI-Calc.org, and I really thought that was something that we were trying to avoid here?
Something about a friendly enviroment and all that? If you have a problem with someone, email them, and then it can be delt with in that manner. Personal attacks on a forum makes the site look bad, and pushes people away.
[Edited by TI Freak on 15-Jun-05 23:42] |
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
14:47 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | Thank you, TI-Freak8x, and I agree. If you have a problem with a bug, by all means post on my forum, PM me, IM me, email me, whatever. If you have a flame, email me or keep it to yourself. And I resent Allyn's comment that all of my projects are "half-finished" and that "none of them work", since that is blatantly untrue. Ever see the news article at ticalc.org about Civilization Simulator I? How about World Domination? Pong v1.0 for DCS5? Office DE? uLtra TOurnaMent II? Any of the hundreds of other admittedly BASIC-language but still entertaining and valuable programs I have made over the past six year? You feel that none of these has any value whatsoever? OK, I'm done responding to the flames now. Any more responses by me here will be strictly professional queries relating to bug reports. Thank you. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:11 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | WiFi Card Purchased
Kerm to Attend Cooper Union
Kerm Rumored to Get Date
iPaq Procured
I found all those in less than 5 minutes. I don't think the people who use the ti-news conglomorate feed give a rat's behind about any of that. That's all stuff that belongs in a blog, not a calculator site's news page. Do note that all those links go to ti-news.net.
Also, I stand by Nikky when he says a lot of your stuff is half-finished and doesn't work. How long have you been working on TICI, three years now (I know it's at least been two)? I've yet to see any bona-fide application of it.
As for you being self-rightgeous and self-centered, it goes back to you using cemetech's news, and by association ti-news.net, as your personal blog. You seem to think that everyone out there gives a rat's buttocks about all that stuff. News flash, WE DON'T!
[Edited by Andy on 16-Jun-05 00:16] |
KermMartian
Marine
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:17 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | Fair enough. And note that I did say any further responses would be purely programming-concerned. I see no reason to turn this into an assassination of my character. |
jhaygood86
Probe
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:18 GMT
Total Posts: 4 | Andy, you're being to easy on him ;). I can think of 2 words that have the initials F.O. that are prolly warranted to be said to him.
Please edit or delete if this is inappropriate. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:22 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Anyway, I've still yet to see anything from you be halfway decent. I'm willing to bet that only a handful of your programs on ticalc (even with you being the most active author) are any good. I'd go take a look at them, but I don't have to time nor patience to look at 282 programs that in all likelyhood over 250 of them will crash my calculator.
I'll give everything a fair look, but I'm not going to feature a buggy program that crashes half the time you use it, that isn't intuitive, that isn't even uploaded to our site. |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:22 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I have yet to see him do anything really wrong. He isn't Hays, though you are treating him like he is. It is such a shame that you people would sit here and bad mouth someone that at least tries to make games that isn't pong, nibbles and others like that.
And I thought this place would be a good place to talk to people. Now I see why Kevin left this place. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Jun 2005
15:23 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Locked before this gets (even more) out of hand. |
