| Author | Comment |
SenorPoo
Probe
Posted: 8 Sep 2005
21:40 GMT
Total Posts: 7 | Anyone know of a program that will fake the Erasing of my TI-84 Plus SE's memory? I'd like to use my equation programs for physics, yet my teacher checks to see that we erase our shit...
The "Fakemem" program in the archives sucks, it displays a gay message after 5 seconds of "Erasing Memory..", so it's useless.
Anyone know of one? |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
04:11 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | They exist, but I refuse to help you. I have ethics, and most people here do too. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
10:02 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | yes... ethics...
hmm... i dont think i can help you either. they're easy to create, but then again, if you get caught using them you will probably be punished severely, perhaps the teacher would fail you from teh class for cheating... |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
11:31 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | I know of one, but I'm not divulging its location. As Andy said, people here have ethics.
Besides, if you have done all of your homework you should be familiar enough with the equations anyway.
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
13:17 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | I really feel bad for people who take classes where the teachers cannot teach critical enough lessons that they need to check for calc mem like babies. Then again, my school has no clue whats the difference between my 89ti and a 30x, so maybe i dont experience any of that for that reason. Still, mt teachers _give_ us the formulas, but the problems I get are much too critical for a calculator to help me cheat with. The calc is only awesome for its solving capabilities, which cant be erased by the teacher anyway :D |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
15:25 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | in my chemistry class we can't use a "programable calculator" so I had to buy a $10 scientific calc. I have never been one to enter formulas into my calc. I did make a hiding program for my 89 but I have never used to cheat. it generally seems that my teachers either ban calcs or let you do anyting whith them. this year I don't think that I will get to use my 89 at all. |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
16:17 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Ethics, shmethics...
Believe it or not, it's really easy. Or you can do it the way I did: create a fake homescreen. That's much easier...
But due to the fact that I suffered through school already, and will never be forced to this type of oppression again, I refuse to tell you so you can experience it for yourself. :D |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 9 Sep 2005
18:14 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | :If A>320000000000:Then:Disp "Mem Cleared":End
:ClrHome
Disp "we dont condone","cheating here"
:Stop
[Edited by alex10819 on 10-Sep-05 03:14] |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 10 Sep 2005
16:32 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Ooh, ooh! Your program is flawed...
:If A>32(10^10):Disp "Mem Cleared
:ClrHome
:Disp "we dont condone","cheating here
That'll work better. :D |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 10 Sep 2005
17:19 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | Derek, I said id write you one. Leave these people and their consiences alone.
---
Someone call for an exterminator? |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 10 Sep 2005
18:56 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | Is it really our consciences bothering us? Or that we're simply trying to help someone out the hard way?
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 11 Sep 2005
04:01 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I'm just guessing that everyone is just too afraid of being called such a jerk by saying its okay and helping the person, except for DSP, who clearly knows his place of bringing other people suffering and pain. As for me, I've never done that, and I certainly don't agree with it, and frankly, I've seen more inventive ways to cheat.
[Edited by JcCorp on 11-Sep-05 13:01] |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 11 Sep 2005
17:44 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | Is providing a way for someone to cheat really helping, though? What happens if there's a test that involves no calculators whatsoever? What then?
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
13:56 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean everyone. I probably sound like such a jerk... my apologies. And BullFrog, that's exactly correct. They don't learn anything, and even I made sure I knew equasions before I put them on my calculators. |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
15:31 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | if you knew the equatins what was the point of having them on your calc? I never really put equations into my calc just programs that use equations so I coultd save time and effort. |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
15:34 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | << if you knew the equatins what was the point of having them on your calc? >>
Everyone forgets something from time-to-time. Consider it insurance.
Then again, if the calculator isn't an option, it doesn't really matter does it?
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
16:07 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Hehehe, Jc speaks the truth...
I do know a really easy way to make a fake homescreen...
But it'll cost you :D |
SenorPoo
Probe
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
16:45 GMT
Total Posts: 7 | You all assume that I'm some desperate idiot to "make the grade."
As froggy said,
"Is providing a way for someone to cheat really helping, though? What happens if there's a test that involves no calculators whatsoever? What then?"
I'd have you know that I'm actually a fully functional individual who fully knows all the equations myself, as I do happen to study daily for this. Ask 3fg, I'm not stupid. Actually, don't ask him, he may do so just to spite me.
Would you rather my pencil the equations in on the cover of my calculator like I'm sure a handful of you have done more then once?
As for tests without calculators - If we were ever not allowed to use calculators, then there would be no equations on said test.
As froggy so aptly proves my intent : "Everyone forgets something from time-to-time. Consider it insurance."
There's just so many damn equations that I tend to confuse them after awhile.
Call it cheating all you want, I'll go ahead and call it organizing my damn thoughts.
I know it would be easy enough to make one, I'm a computer programmer (of a sort) myself, I just don't know a lick of BASIC to want to learn nor code in it. All you have to do is make a picture display showing "Mem Cleared" with all the details. I just don't have the know how to do so, as I have no current motivation to learn BASIC.
[Edited by SenorPoo on 13-Sep-05 01:47] |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
16:49 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Well, MisterPoo, some of us willingly admit to cheating in high school, and some of us don't have very good ethics (i.e. myself).
If you really want the program I've described in the topic, e-mail me... |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
19:51 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | Well, SenorPoo, if you had left out the part about needing it because your teacher didn't want you to use programs on tests and such I'm sure everyone here would've jumped up and helped you. I imagine everyone has had a teacher reset their memory because they were playing games. I have, at least once... Way back in 7th grade.
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
21:11 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | I don't think that I have. I did get yelled at often in precalc thought. really what is a mem erease going to do I think cloging the link port would be more efictive. |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 12 Sep 2005
22:21 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | By the time I reached precalculus, my teachers knew that I knew what I was doing and they didn't waste their time telling me to pay attention.
Even if they had erased my memory, I would've come back the next day with everything restored. Hehe.
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 13 Sep 2005
21:26 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | I, actually, at one point, considered overwriting the part in the OS that actually allows you to clear the memory and re-installing said OS on my calc. But that would have taken lots of time and effort, 2 things I can never spare. |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 13 Sep 2005
21:37 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | that is an interesting idea. but you teacher would eventually learn to check to see if the stuff had really been deleted and if it hadn't they could unarchive everything and do a battery pull |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
04:10 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Actually, you can't get rid of the reinstall the OS part. It's on the boot page, which is write-protected in hardware. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
05:15 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Pencil in stuff on a calc? That's ridiculous... I've etched my name on my 83+, but otherwise, that's a little destructive...
And if you don't re-install the OS... O.o; |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
09:17 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | @DSP: my program wasnt truly flawed... granted, it coulda been optimized, but i wanted it to tell any user that we dont condone cheating here... not just the person who was lucky enough for the If to apply to...
@all: i dont bother penciling stuff in on my calc... its easier to write it on the chewing gum under the desk... or just be like me... a rather creative way to hide things is grouping... my teachers just look at your programs menu to see if you deleted it or not... |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
13:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | Believe it or not, derek isnt stupid. He is in Physics C or something and he doesnt want his physics programs erased. And mirage os can block the memory menu from being opened.
---
Someone call for an exterminator? |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
16:08 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | A simple pull of the batteries fixes that...
According to his first post, he wanted to cheat. That is stupid.
[Edited by BullFrog on 15-Sep-05 01:08]
---
"Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds." -Franklin D. Roosevelt |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 14 Sep 2005
21:11 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Well, I believe you can disallow access to the reset menu easily, but that would be obvious. Or you just redirect the menu keycode for that menu to go to a fake one :img13: . |
WCM2010
Dragoon
Posted: 15 Sep 2005
14:46 GMT
Total Posts: 95 | Dude I posted here and it did not show up!
---
RuneScape FTW but calcs were my first love O_o |
Xero Xcape
Marine
Posted: 15 Sep 2005
15:28 GMT
Total Posts: 29 | I made a nice little one that'd fake a memory menu, then when you select clear all RAM, it'd do a fake Garbage Collect that would last until you pressed a 13 button keycode :D
---
BASIC flames are for n00bs, you don't want to be a n00b do you? | My other calc is a Porsche. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Sep 2005
19:28 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> Dude I posted here and it did not show up!
What, a fake memclear program? It would probably be rejected. |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 15 Sep 2005
19:32 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | probably the only place to get a fake memory erase or proram hider is to meke your own. |
alex10819
Wraith
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
09:47 GMT
Total Posts: 507 | hmm... thinks... why even have a program? (thinks back to the Algebra2 H exam*... one kid managed to keep his entire memory intact without a program... though im not telling how... (the teacher let us clear it, we just had to show evidence) |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
10:35 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Well, that wouldn't be too hard... |
lord_bakotl
Dragoon
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
10:44 GMT
Total Posts: 70 | You could always to the ol' calculator switch, have the one with your notes on it in a back pocket to be swapped out after the mem on the decoy is cleared. |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
11:59 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Well, that would work for some of us... :)
I thought there was a program that would hide everything in the prog and several other menus, and would display the mem deleted screen, then running the program again would bring it all back. I am not sure though... |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
16:03 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | I'm 99% percent sure what you're talking about exists, TI Freak... I just don't remember what it's called. |
jessef
Goliath
Posted: 16 Sep 2005
20:37 GMT
Total Posts: 192 | I don't know about the 83/84's but on the 89 you can just set the inuse bit of the folder that a file is in and the folder won't be visable in the var-link but you will still be able to use everything in that folder |
