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YodeTheCode
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Posted: 5 May 2008
23:15 GMT
Total Posts: 3
k. So here's the deal. Last year I recived a TI-84+ from a friend, no CD or anything, just the calculator. Well, I want to put some good trig programs onto it like TrigBible, Triangulator, TriEQ, so on and so fourth. Well to do this I needed a cable that connected the 84+ to a USB port on my computer, so I got one from my math teacher. I actually got like the whole package for it. I got the plastic case and everything, the only thing I didn't get was the calculator she purchased.

So, anyways, I went and downloaded the Triangulator, TrigBible, and TriEQ and then ran the CD in the computer to install TI Connect 1.6. After it installed, I then opened it to check it out. After that I closed it and hooked my TI-84+ to the computer. When I do this new hardware is detected and it asks if I want Windows to search for and install the drivers. I click yes and after a while of searching it says it cannot find them and to insert a CD if I have one that as the drivers on it. I insert it and it finds no drivers. Anyways I open up TI Connect 1.6 and click the TI Device Explorer. When I do this it comes up with a little window with COM3 listed as the only port and it has a little green bar. When the green bar fills the search for the device is complete.

Here is where the problem lies. It never detects the device. I've tried plugging it into 4 different USB ports and it never finds it. What is going on? I can't get the drivers for it on the computer and I can't get it to locate the device. I even tried uninstalling TI Connect 1.6 and reinstalling the one you DL from the internet but the same thing happens. Can you please help me? I have a College Trig final exam on Wednesday and I could really use these programs to minimize the amount of work I'll have to do by hand during the examination. Please help I really don't know what to do and I've looked all over and no one has had this problem, or has posted about it anywhere. kthnx in advance and please reply ASAP cause I need this in like a day.

BTW I run Vista Home Premium SP1 if that has anything to do with this. Although I doubt it cause I tried it on my other comp a few days ago with XP and the same stuff happened.

Oh, and I'm not sure if the programs I DLed are BASIC or te other kind that requires Mirage. Could someone please check this link and tell me which kind they are? Here is the link:

http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/basic/math/trigonometry/
Zachary940
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Posted: 6 May 2008
13:40 GMT
Total Posts: 714
You need the driver. Because of the fact you have gone and plugged your calculator in your computer you have successfully made more work for yourself.

First, you need to go to http://education.ti.com and down load TI connect.
Install it on your computer, and then you must go into your device manager. (With vista who knows where it's at) Once there you will need to reinstall or delete the drivers for the unknown device.

I hope this helps.

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YodeTheCode
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Posted: 6 May 2008
14:31 GMT
Total Posts: 3
So, wait...I wasn't supposed to plug it into the comp? How will I get the files from the comp to the calc if I don't connect?

Will windows find the drivers? Cause I haven't been able to get them...

Also, I failed to see that the title of that page is basic math programs so nvm about that last question.
YodeTheCode
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Posted: 6 May 2008
15:08 GMT
Total Posts: 3
Windows can't reinstall the drivers. it can't find them. The CD for TI Connect doesn't contain them and idk where to get them.

What the hell is going on? How come everyone claims it is so easy just install Connect then connect and transfer? Why am I having this driver problem crap?

More importantly how do I solve this problem? I kinda need the programs by tomorrow.
Zachary940
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Posted: 6 May 2008
19:04 GMT
Total Posts: 714
1. Forget everything you think you know because I have a feeling it is mostly wrong.
2. Uninstall Ti connect and remove all the drivers for the unknown device in your device manager.
3. restart your system
4. Reinstall TI Connect
4.5 restart your system
5. plug in your calc
6. let us know if it works.
7 upgrade to windows XP. And yes I do consider it as an upgrade. Vista just sucks.


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LinneaSays
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Posted: 8 Jun 2008
14:56 GMT
Total Posts: 1
Okay, I have the same problem with USB devices on my Vista laptop. So if you find an XP computer that you can use, everything should work fine.
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 8 Jun 2008
16:29 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Don't capitalize your topic name.
That's irritaing and pointless.
Vectris
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Posted: 8 Jun 2008
21:00 GMT
Total Posts: 375
When it asks you how to install the new hardware, you select the first option right, the one that has (Recommended) in parenthesis?
BrandonW
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Posted: 8 Jun 2008
21:01 GMT
Total Posts: 100
It should be noted that TI Connect is a piece of crap. Whoever told you it's easy was a liar. It's terrible, terrible software written by terrible, terrible developers (trust me on this), and you should complain to ti-cares@ti.com, especially for their pathetic direct USB support. Make yourself known about this!

As far as actually getting it to work, I can only suggest random magic like unplugging, replugging, rebooting, re-installing, driver removal/re-installation, etc.
Zachary940
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Posted: 8 Jun 2008
22:52 GMT
Total Posts: 714
Kicking your computer has also worked for me once.

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tifreak8x
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
09:43 GMT
Total Posts: 419
When will you be making a new linking program for th pc <-> calc? :P

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calcs4life
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
14:38 GMT
Total Posts: 8
I disagree with BrandonW. TI Connect worked for me and easy to install on my XP computer.
Zachary940
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
16:16 GMT
Total Posts: 714
You can disagree all you want, doesn't change fact from fiction.

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allynfolksjr
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
18:53 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I haven't had a problem with TI-Connect either, in the fact that it was the best program for linking calculators when I did that sort of thing.
BrandonW
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
19:46 GMT
Total Posts: 100
You're all brainwashed not to know any better. I've about had it with TI Connect, and I can see I'm going to have to go into explicit detail why it's a piece of junk, especially for direct USB. I know some people have heard it already, but I'll write something up sometime.

tifreak8x: I really have no issue with TiLP's drivers, just the interface. I can't speak for Linux people, but on Windows, I find it counter-productive. So I think one of us just needs to write a decent interface to it.
tifreak8x
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Posted: 9 Jun 2008
22:08 GMT
Total Posts: 419
Ah, well, I don't know, as I use connect, but with the Silver link. I have noticed problems in the past trying to use the direct link, because I think the OS gets confused with Connect and is not entirely sure what to do with the new found hardware.

It would be nice if someone came up with a new system though, something that mimics the user interface of connect, but actually worked greater than 30% of the time.. <.<

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me2
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Posted: 10 Jun 2008
11:33 GMT
Total Posts: 171
TI-Connect works great for me, the only problem is that it will occasionally destroy one program in a group file. Other than that, it's great. After you install the software, tell the computer to search for the drivers on the hard disk you installed TI-Connect on. It should come up with one or two 'unknown' drivers (that's what it did on both of my computers). Select one, let it install it, even if the computer complains about it being unsigned. That's how I made mine work, it might work for you too.

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Vectris
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Posted: 10 Jun 2008
12:14 GMT
Total Posts: 375
Why do you people say TI-Connect is bad? Theres nothing wrong with it. The only problems I have is every time I unplug the link I have to re-install the device, which takes a few seconds. That and Mario levels won't back up. Other than that all the transferring and stuff works fine.
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 10 Jun 2008
16:24 GMT
Total Posts: 100
You are lucky, then. I can't even send variables through direct USB if they already exist on the calculator. It'll request a directory listing of all the variables, and if you're trying to send one already there, it actually hangs PC-side. Explain THAT one to me!

And don't forget erasing the Flash swap sector on every connection attempt with direct USB.

And refusing to link with an 84+SE if you have 84+ selected, and vice versa...

And hanging several seconds for me PC-side on every connection attempt...

You have to reinstall the driver every time you plug it in? "It works fine for me except [insert really important thing here]"?

There's no excuse for this kind of stuff. The list goes on and on...
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 10 Jun 2008
16:50 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
TI-Connect sucks.
Vectris
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Posted: 11 Jun 2008
07:19 GMT
Total Posts: 375
No I only have to re-install it when I unplug the actual link and move it, not the calculator.
me2
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Posted: 16 Jun 2008
11:19 GMT
Total Posts: 171
Ti-Connect is great, and I've found really simple ways around every problem that I have had with it.

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BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 16 Jun 2008
13:43 GMT
Total Posts: 100
I can't take any more!
haveacalc
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Posted: 16 Jun 2008
14:54 GMT
Total Posts: 1111
Drinking mercury is great, and I've found really simple ways around every problem that I have had with it. :)

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me2
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Posted: 25 Jun 2008
11:48 GMT
Total Posts: 171
Seriously though, Ti-Connect is good software.

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BrandonW
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Posted: 26 Jun 2008
18:24 GMT
Total Posts: 100
Seriously though, it's really not. What do YOU do when you want to edit a program, for example?
Vectris
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Posted: 27 Jun 2008
18:29 GMT
Total Posts: 375
TI-Connect is good software.

Even when it works you can't edit programs with it. There barely even exists a program that lets you edit calculator programs on the computer.
BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 30 Jun 2008
13:28 GMT
Total Posts: 100
TI-Graph Link works perfectly fine for that. To this day, I refuse to use any sort of USB cable for reliable communication, which is what that software doesn't support.
me2
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Posted: 1 Jul 2008
11:56 GMT
Total Posts: 171
USB is the best! It's the fastest connector available! It beats Firewire and DSL on speed in Kbps! It's perfectly reliable! What, I ask, is wrong with that?!

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BrandonW
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Posted: 1 Jul 2008
12:49 GMT
Total Posts: 100
I meant for calculator communication. USB's a wonderful thing.
me2
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Posted: 7 Jul 2008
09:05 GMT
Total Posts: 171
Ah, I see. I personally like it for that too, but that's just me. Anyway, we are WAY off topic. This thread ought to be closed.


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BrandonW
Goliath
Posted: 8 Jul 2008
17:22 GMT
Total Posts: 100
And why should it be closed, locked, or anything else? It went off the topic of helping this guy with his 84+ long ago. There's no point in closing it. That line of thinking leads to forum Nazis. The only time a moderator should step in is if something is completely out of control, and that's not happening here.
allynfolksjr
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Posted: 8 Jul 2008
21:05 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I'm not sure how we can even close topics, to tell you the truth.
Vectris
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Posted: 10 Jul 2008
12:10 GMT
Total Posts: 375
Well someone knows how, it's been done before.
calcs4life
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Posted: 10 Jul 2008
18:04 GMT
Total Posts: 8
Okay, I have to admit that TI Connect is not perfect. If you want to prevent a calculator crash, don't send groups with this software. It's better to ungroup them and send each program one by one. Metroid Pi taught me that lesson.
musicraze
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Posted: 17 Jul 2009
13:00 GMT
Total Posts: 1
hey yodethecode, im having the same problem as you are. have u found a solution????
so far all the crap answers given here are still crap.
but for me, my computer recognizes that there's a unknown devie, which is the TI-84plus on the com, but the TI-connect just can't find it.
i dunno whats the freaking prob with it
haveacalc
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Posted: 17 Jul 2009
21:05 GMT
Total Posts: 1111
Using TiLP instead is the easiest way to get around your problem.

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Zachary940
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Posted: 19 Jul 2009
21:12 GMT
Total Posts: 714
If it is an unknown device then your computer does not know what it is. Hints the word unknown, there by you still need the drivers for your calculator.

One more thing, please do not bump topics. It is very annoying.

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darksideprogramming
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Posted: 16 Aug 2009
00:52 GMT
Total Posts: 1005
Yeah, what Zachary940 said.





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