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sk8b04rd3r_77
Probe
Posted: 11 Nov 2007
11:28 GMT
Total Posts: 7
Alright, so I'm trying to install programs into my calculator, but I can't seem to do that. I downloaded TI-Connect, but still, nothing. Also, I'm getting confused on what to install on my computer to succesfully do all of this. I just recently got this.
Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 11 Nov 2007
12:04 GMT
Total Posts: 583
did you plug in your calculator already? before installing TI connect, if so windows will freak out and youll have to wait a little while before trying again.
uninstall and reinstall TIconnect then download a game (goto games, your calculator type, if its ti84, i recommend my game, escape! because it has a nice tutorial for you and tells you how to install ti connect, move games into the calc, and archive, unarchive them.)
and then plug in your calculator, windows should get the driver from ticonnect. if not, then youll have to wait for windows to dump the driver before you start again.

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sk8b04rd3r_77
Probe
Posted: 11 Nov 2007
12:16 GMT
Total Posts: 7
hey, sorry for dumb reply, but dont loggout or antyhing. i may need some walkthru. im doing all this right now.
Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 11 Nov 2007
13:14 GMT
Total Posts: 583
so what did you do and how did it work

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sk8b04rd3r_77
Probe
Posted: 12 Nov 2007
09:26 GMT
Total Posts: 7
didnt work..i need the mirage os thing right?
Xphoenix
Ultralisk
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Posted: 12 Nov 2007
11:53 GMT
Total Posts: 210
MirageOS is for your calculator, not your computer, It wouldn't make sending programs any easier.

Maybe this thread will help you.

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sk8b04rd3r_77
Probe
Posted: 12 Nov 2007
13:54 GMT
Total Posts: 7
it did but now another dang problem. Everytime i try to install a program, there is unsufficient memory. i deleted a lot of apps (the ones for different languages), so im very sure that i have enough memory. what now?
Xphoenix
Ultralisk
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Posted: 12 Nov 2007
18:01 GMT
Total Posts: 210
Now, try archiving everything you put on your calculator. If you deleted apps, y6ou should have free Archive, not RAM.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 12 Nov 2007
19:33 GMT
Total Posts: 583
it only frees up some (very few bytes) of RAM when you delete archived programs. Applications are just... special.

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Xphoenix
Ultralisk
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Posted: 12 Nov 2007
21:39 GMT
Total Posts: 210
He's deleting apps (NOT PROGRAMS) and sending programs. Did you get mixed up or have do you no idea what you're talking about?

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 13 Nov 2007
07:35 GMT
Total Posts: 583
i know i was just saying that when you delete archived programs you get more RAM, not when you delete archived apps.
i was agreeing with you and adding an acception, which is where HE got mixed up. with deleting archived stuff.
im sorry if i wasn't clear.

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tifreak8x
Administrator
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Posted: 13 Nov 2007
09:46 GMT
Total Posts: 419
umm...

Just so you know, all variables, programs, apps, appvars, groupfiles, lists, matrices, etc. take RAM. They are all stored in the VAT in some way, and each of the above item takes a small amount of RAM in some form or another.

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gulyman
Goliath
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Posted: 13 Nov 2007
16:33 GMT
Total Posts: 144
What is the VAT?
Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 13 Nov 2007
17:22 GMT
Total Posts: 583
im sure it has to do with the overall memory.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 14 Nov 2007
11:53 GMT
Total Posts: 612
******OFF TOPIC ALERT********
*******WARNING READING THIS POST WILL MAKE YOU REALIZE THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OFF TOPIC!***************

I want to see a calc with actuall ROM in the near future.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 14 Nov 2007
17:11 GMT
Total Posts: 583
interesting.

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tifreak8x
Administrator
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Posted: 14 Nov 2007
19:51 GMT
Total Posts: 419
VAT = Variable Allocation Table



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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 15 Nov 2007
06:39 GMT
Total Posts: 583
i see. what does that do, exactly?

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 15 Nov 2007
09:08 GMT
Total Posts: 612
well here's what I found

VAT is an acronym for Variable Allocation Table. What it actually is is a large chunk of RAM holding the attributes of every variable on the calculator. The VAT's size is constantly in flux: when you create a variable, the VAT's size is instantly increased to accomodate the new entry. When variables are deleted, the VAT shrinks as the entries for those variables are removed.
The VAT starts immediately before the end of the hardware stack and is divided into two parts. The first part holds the names of real, complex, matrix, picture, GDB, and equation type variables. This region starts immediately after the Hardware Stack at the fixed address SymTable.
The second part holds programs, lists, groups, and AppVars. The beginning is stored in the variable (ProgPtr) and ends at (PTemp)+1.


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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 15 Nov 2007
17:37 GMT
Total Posts: 583
sounds like what i thought it was.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 15 Nov 2007
19:41 GMT
Total Posts: 612
Ok, I googled it and found five sites that said the same thing so I went with it.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 16 Nov 2007
14:18 GMT
Total Posts: 583
well i kinda figured it was something along those lines.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 16 Nov 2007
20:57 GMT
Total Posts: 612
Yeah, that's what I do when I don't something. 1st google it. 2nd check results, if more than 3 sites agree. I go with it unless told otherwise.

P.S.

Sad thing was it took five tries to finally get it right. Then the first result that looked correct was on the 4th page.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007
07:54 GMT
Total Posts: 583
interesting you would go to such lengths on such a short bandwidth.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007
14:25 GMT
Total Posts: 612
I like to make sure that I am getting the truth and some lie.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 17 Nov 2007
18:21 GMT
Total Posts: 583
that made no sense.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 18 Nov 2007
20:57 GMT
Total Posts: 612
How did it not make anysense. I like to be well informed about a subject. You never know when it's going to come up. Like let's say during a Impromptu Speech during the district match? Hmm, yeah it helps there. Or let's say during the Jeopardy audition yeah that's a very important time.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
08:18 GMT
Total Posts: 583
all i got from the post before was
"i like truth and lie"
:?

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
10:30 GMT
Total Posts: 612
I said I like the truth and when in doubt B.S. the **** out of it. Like on a test and then argue w/ the teacher until they change your grade.

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darksideprogramming
Guardian
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
10:38 GMT
Total Posts: 1005
Arguing with teachers, and authority figures in general, more often than not gets you absolutely nowhere.
Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
10:57 GMT
Total Posts: 583
indeed.im a ref an when the argue. red card. if you argued with a teacher they would probably kick your ass.

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1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
11:14 GMT
Total Posts: 612
No, I B.S. them into thinking that I was correct. Now I only do this when I think that I have a chance of winning. And what sort of school do you go to where the teachers "kick your ass for agruing"?

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darksideprogramming
Guardian
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
11:18 GMT
Total Posts: 1005
Military school, for example.
1337h4kor
Wraith
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Posted: 19 Nov 2007
11:21 GMT
Total Posts: 612
I know that but I was just wondering. I go 2 normal school.

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Hydraliskisback
Wraith
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Posted: 23 Nov 2007
11:19 GMT
Total Posts: 583
metaphorically speaking.
as in defiance ridden suspension or if you have enough of those- explusion.

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