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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 30 Jun 2005
11:35 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | design.calcgames.org
nothing really works except assembly file list pages... but you can check it out if you want.
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 30 Jun 2005
11:38 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | I can't log in, will i have to re-register?
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 30 Jun 2005
12:00 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | if you want... but chances are that all accounts will be transfered once we get it closer to being finished.
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greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 30 Jun 2005
12:03 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | Very cool (and different)... and the drop-down menus work on FF! w00t!
I think someone should get a banner like the one at MaxCoders with some screenies and other things combined... to make a little jazz to the CG name... I wish I was good at GIMP... |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 30 Jun 2005
20:53 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | ohh, now that I'm here for a couple of days, perhaps I'll want to work on that tomorrow. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 1 Jul 2005
08:10 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | alright, does it still work in firefox? i made some changes with the list classes to make sure that it doesn't affect other lists that aren't supposed to be dropdown.... i have had some problems with naming the classes, so maybe it doesn't work anymore...
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greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 1 Jul 2005
08:42 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | Everything works fine. I can represent the Linux Firefox user :D :P |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 1 Jul 2005
11:43 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | and i can be the mac user. it works good in safari.
in internet explorer (still on mac) it shows:
Login:
Username:
Password: Login
If you're new here, you will probably want to create an account.
Welcome to CalcGames.org, your home for calculator games, friends, and and non-pop-up invaded internet browsing!
Here you can create your own journal, comment on yours and others' journals, post news, pictures, polls, and more (like downloading calculator games)!
Right now CalcGames.org is in development stages, but it is still very useful for stuff. Expect to see more of CalcGames.org in mid-2007 (as well as soon), but for now, enjoy one of the most simple and easy to use journal tools and calculator game websites available on the net.
instead of the correct version which has the login stuff off to the right of the Welcome message.
in netscape it looks fine, but even though you can open the lists, they disappear when they try to select a term.
but scripting is a problem in ie and netscape for mac. thats why apple made safari (and ive never tried opera altho i should)
one more question, why is this add-ridden? and is imCommunity an add too?
[Edited by threefingeredguy on 01-Jul-05 20:45]
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 1 Jul 2005
14:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | imCommunity.net is not an ad... that's where the banner will be.
chances are that the ads will stay. We pay a lot for hosting and we need some way of getting funds to do that.
In netscape, is there a gap between the dropdown buttons and the actual lists? if there's a gap, that's probably why they disappear... (try going really fast down to the lists and see if it ever stays).
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
05:49 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Huh... I like it a lot! I'm an advocate of light color schemes, personally. Though, it does make it look a bit like other calc sites... When I get the time, I may get bored and try making buttons and stuff for it. Whether they are used or not, who knows, but it should be a fun challenge.
By the way, I made a test user name (hopefully mine here will just become transferred) to see the My Page stuff. Very nice touch... it should add a little innovation to the site!
Great job overall! |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
07:52 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | well when they copied it over, they copied the imCommunity database. if you had an account there at the time of transferrance, it was copied. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
09:15 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | And I *think* that we're going to use the user database we have now, well, at least the basic stuff will be transferred. Not exactly sure what yet. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
15:35 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Hehe, cool stuff. So if IMc going to be merged with CG? That may actually be a nice idea though controlling the content may prove too difficult.
EDIT: Btw, one bug found (I know this is just a start but its good to point out thigs so that they can be fixed fast). The auto linker of news poster's username to forum info would obviously show a bad page for "update". I suppose we'd need to code in some exceptions into the script.
[Edited by zkostik on 03-Jul-05 00:37]
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
15:50 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Actually, there IS a dummy update user. However, those links are lacking the cgi-bin required of them. (BUG) |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 2 Jul 2005
17:50 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I know, that's what I was generally referring to.
Second, Maps and other things don't show up in calc side menu. I guess it wasn't coded in yet but just a heads up. Not to sound anal but the new site seems a bit much like ticalc. I suppose if the navigation can be made to get people to files quicker it wouldn't be too bad but if we're going to gear for a huge archive we definitely need to more file categories to have things sorted out better or at least for search purposes or something. I do like the new layout though. So as usual, lemme know where I can help and I'll see what I can do.
EDIT:
BTW, if you guys are planning on a frameless site we'll need to write up out own forum codebase or have it come up in either popup window or iframe because it won't work otherwise. I doubt that efforts of making teemz dumb its output html somewhere and then put it into a table inside the new site is really worth the time.
[Edited by zkostik on 03-Jul-05 06:25]
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 3 Jul 2005
08:22 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I don't understand... are you trying to link the usernames on the forum to the site, like it is right now? |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 3 Jul 2005
08:48 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Teemz is so old anymore... We really ought to consider something else. Of course, if we can just make a skin for it that includes all that other stuff, it'd be ok. Or, we just *gasp* don't have all the navigation stuff in teemz (I myself just open it directly, no sense in all the clutter). |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 3 Jul 2005
10:22 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah, I have the same feeling about teemz Andy. Though, creating our own forum from scratch will require quite a bit of effort. We do however have a codebase for the threaded forum so I suppose we can just expand on that... Since the new codebase already has user profiles and such adding more forum threds and functions shouldn't be too hard. We can also just consider the whole forum a one big tree and branch things out from it...or something of that sort. It is however about time that we get into a nice threaded forum w/ more features. I like threaded forum as its easy to see who you're and others are talking to.
Oh, it would actually be kinda nice to integrate our calc community w/ general community forum/site we're planning on. That ought to produce a better and more fun network. You know what I mean.
[Edited by zkostik on 03-Jul-05 19:26]
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
14:46 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | We're not merging imC and CG, but just using the imC code for the new CG to make things a LOT easier.
It doesn't look too much like ticalc.org, I don't think. The thing is just that this version of CG is SO different that anything that's "normal" would look like ticalc.org. I see many differences (the JS file tree, the dropdown menus, and some of the things that we will be adding).
I think for the benefit of CG, we should write our own forum. I don't want to use teemz or any of those pre-made php scripts or anything.
Also about the forum: I don't think that the forum itself should be threaded (just news items and possibly polls)... There's really no reason for it... most user-started discussions are not long enough to have threads, and they really aren't appropriate in a general-discussion forum... Flat discussions just serve the purpose better for general discussions.
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
18:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | i like the current forum setup :(. better than all the phpBB things for sure.
on a different note, would this be a good idea for the games section? add in a way for admins or moderators to decide what the game is similar too and write that "if you like this game try this one" thing. except this one wouldnt be based on what people downloaded because some people would download everything. you could have trusted people find out what the put it in a sort of genre. ok thats my idea. i read an article about it, and it seems to have worked pretty well.
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
18:56 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | hmm, that's vague enough it just might work! seriously though, I like the sound of that. |
threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
20:14 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | if you think i type vaguely, you should hear m on the phone. i make little to no sense on the phone. always.
and i tested it on netscape again. it still wont work. theres not enough people using netscape to re write it tho. forget about it. and cant wait until i can login on the new one and vote for "Barret and Nikky are gods, its perfect"
on another note, how much money does this site cost. i could donate a couple of bucks (maybe even up to 20).
[Edited by threefingeredguy on 05-Jul-05 05:19]
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 4 Jul 2005
20:31 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | If you made an imCommunity login before last week, use that. If not, just make a new login.
and that was a very vague fairly oddparents reference >.>
[Edited by Andy on 05-Jul-05 05:33] |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
14:29 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Similar files would be nice...kinda like when you look at stuff on Amazon.com it shows you related products. Though, it may be hard to maintain the lists of related files. How would you propose we take care of those?
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
15:32 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Perhaps the author themselves could suggest similar programs? Then we could look at those and such, it'd be easier for us I know. I mean, the author knows their program better than anyone else.
[Edited by allynfolksjr on 06-Jul-05 00:32] |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 5 Jul 2005
23:39 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yeah, I suppose that'd work. Those suggested files won't need any approval so giving space for say 5 related/recommended files would be a nice add (we could also have another 5 admin suggested adds just in case we want to put up our recommeneded ones or so. Then however, visitors may also suggested good related files but we don't want too many. I suppose we could introduce some sort of voting on related files so only the ones with higher scores would show or high scored files will be on top and gradually moved low scoring ones to the botton where they'll finally disappear if there are too many. That does sound nice, yet rather complicated. What would be your proposition folks?
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
11:35 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | While I agree that that would be nice, but you have to realize the number of new users posting their games and their unwillingness to go through CG's long list of similar files. It would also require some weeding, as someone might decide that Rock Paper Scissors reminds them of Mario 2.0. And of course, similar files would have to be on the same calcs, because even though Kirby plays a bit like Mario, they run on two very different calcs.
Z, your avatar just made me forget my next point, darnit! <_< What is that little wing there for? Wow, I zone out fast, sorry. :(
Anyways, I like the idea, just not the execution. Maybe this could be a job for the content managers? |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
11:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | Yes, this is something that would be a perfect job for the content managers.
The only problem is that I highly, highly doubt that they will work on it enough (remember, there are over 700 files now) to be very effective.
That being said, it wouldn't hurt. Do the content managers feel they can do this for a few files?
I'll only implement this if I know it will be supported.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
13:31 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Well, files don't have to be similar but rather recommended. Like "did you like this file? you may find the following ones interesting too!" sorta thing. The recommended files can be added anytime and as long as they're on CG and in the same platform they shouldn't need to be approved. We cam just add a recommend a similar file box so that regged users can key in a file ID and if it matched criteria like same platform they can be added onto the similar file list. I think that just might work. What do you think B?
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korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
13:49 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Meh, I'll do it. |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
14:39 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | See? I knew the other CMs were going to be good about it. This reminds me of the discussion about grouping by game style- it's a good idea. I think the 8x series should be done first, there are so many. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 6 Jul 2005
15:41 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yes, grouping by game type/subcat would be very handy as our archive grows. It'll also make it easier for people to find specific tpye of software they want instead of bluntly reading thru each file's description. It may be a little tough to maintain or classify certain things but is overall a good and useful idea.
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darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
09:12 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | MUST.... HAVE.... FRAMES!!!
The new design is all right, but why change something that's so good? I've come to love the CG site I've been using for almost 2 and a half years now. Please don't change it! |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
10:05 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Colors are ugly... And the back end is even uglier. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
15:20 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I like the colors since they don't strain the eye. Though, the backend is so old, ugly, uncommented and is a pain to modify and add. It is time to update things so we're trying to get the new design nice and as we progress we'll hopefully be able to get our new interface easy to use. I suppose we'll be able to keep both versions but that'll be determined later down the road.
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 7 Jul 2005
15:45 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Have you ever tried to read the forums with your laptop LCD in powersave mode? No? OK, I rest my case. ;)
(it is VERY hard to read with the brightness turned down -- to the point where I do have to turn the brightness up) |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
06:27 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Yes, but my laptop is an old piece of crap and it doesn't have a power saving mode. The site looks fine even on its relatively crappy lcd. What computer do you have Andy, is it a Toshiba by any chance? Speaking of colors, the best way to solve this is to have customizable color themes, that way everybody will chose the one they like and be happy :). Btw, why would you run in power save mode or on batteries unless you travel or something, this may sound like a stupid question but seriously, why?
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
08:26 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Compaq Presario R3000Z.
And I run the LCD in dimmer brightness anytime I'm on the battery, just to conserve the power (and heat). I can manually adjust the brightness, and on the last few low settings the site becomes unreadable. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
13:55 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | I've seen those Compaq laptops, their screens are pretty good. You must be running it on a very low brightness setting for it to be that dark. I'm all up for customizable skins so that everyone can have a site skin they like best.
[Edited by zkostik on 08-Jul-05 23:04]
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
14:48 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | The screen is pretty good, other than the several dozen stuck pixels they refused to fix (including a couple dozen in a single cm^3).
Just holding Fn-F7 the whole way down makes it unreadable -- and yes, that is pretty dim. My point is most every other site IS readable at that brightness. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
18:27 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | cm^3? nice 3D screen from Star Trek Andy :)
As with colors, most other sites use white and light gray and look all the same or similar. Plus, these colors we used were made for CRT monitors and on CRT monitors. CG was started early 2002 and we openned our doors later in 2002. So obviously there need to be updates. Though, there has been very few people to complain about colors being too dark and even from those people there were few who just had their brightness turned down too much. Like I said before, having changeable or custom color themes would be very cool and make everyone happy. And that's where we're heading now.
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 8 Jul 2005
21:55 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | You know what I meant. ;) |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
11:47 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I really like the new layout of the site. :) It looks fantastic!
The load times are a lot faster, though it isn't too horrible to load now. I can't wait to see the finished product!
Also, are both (frame and frameless) versions going o be available, using the same databases and what not, or is it going to be completely switched over to the new design? |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
13:23 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | I'm not sure, the main stuff should use the same database, with some exceptions. Like we converted the textfile news dbase to a SQL one, but switching it over to that shouldn't be too hard. The forum may be a problem though. |
Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
13:26 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | we will be phasing this forum out as soon as we get the new one finished (and started).
There will be a link to this one so people can finish old topics.. but eventually it'll be closed (by then it will probably not be used at all).
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TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
13:39 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I hope things turn out well. I am adding stuff to my site as well, it can be such a pain... |
darksideprogramming
Guardian
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
14:03 GMT
Total Posts: 1005 | Close out these forums? That's heresy!
And Z, I like your ideas. Keep the old site, as well as customizable colors. Nice.
I need frames! |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 9 Jul 2005
17:11 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Well, the custom colors would only apply to a new site. Changing the current one to allow custom colors would require far too many changes as it was initially not done right (it was our first big project tho, gotta remember that). both sites will use same databases but if we leave the old one we'll have to get rid of the forum probably or have it linked to the new one. unless the forum won't be integrated with a new layout. there are still lots of things to do so i can't really say which way we'll end up heading.
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zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 10 Jul 2005
10:48 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Btw, the site and its menus work quite nicely in Linux (Konqueror browser). That's good to see.
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