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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 27 Apr 2006
09:11 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | I figure that since now this site has enough users and stuff that it's time that we start enforcing the review guidelines. Here are some things that have been sliding past the review reviewers that will not slide by anymore (once the staff reads this):
reviews with spelling errors.
reviews with poor capitalization.
reviews with poor grammar.
reviews that use words such as "cool," "sweet," and "amazing" (and other such words as well as !s, ?s, and other characters excessively) more than once in the same sentence (or in places that are not appropriate).
reviews written by the author.
short reviews.
reviews that do not help people thinking about trying the program.
Just spend more time writing reviews and you will be fine.
Also I (and some other staff) will be going through reviews (not as something that we will be doing, but if we happen to see one that doesn't follow the guidelines) and deleting some (well, a lot).
Please don't be offended, and once again, sorry staff that I'm just sort of saying what you are going to be doing... I'm just under the impression that most of you usually agree with me.
Staff - don't think that you have to go through reviews and delete them, just, if you happen to see one that isn't good, delete it.
Att.
-Barrett
[Edited by Barrett on 27-Apr-06 18:13]
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 27 Apr 2006
14:00 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | Mind if us regular users patrol the archives and pm the admins with the locations of crappy reviews?
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 27 Apr 2006
21:19 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Oh definitely, admins hate it when respectable users try and help out :D .
[Edited by Lunchbox on 29-Apr-06 00:10] |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 27 Apr 2006
21:44 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Shush you, we like help just fine. Perhaps we should review deleting powers...
Edit by L: I wouldn't take away my editing powers if I were you, because none of you can spell right (Shush is not spelled sush) :) .
[Edited by Lunchbox on 29-Apr-06 00:10] |
haveacalc
Guardian
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
12:27 GMT
Total Posts: 1111 | I wouldn't mind deleting powers myself...
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
12:47 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I wouldn't say "any" spelling errors... for example, what if it's just one tiny error? |
Nintendork
Probe
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
14:35 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | Aren't spelling errors, poor capitalization, and grammar errors the same thing?
I h8 thos revyews u cant red at al.
Edit by L: I assume you didn't mean to have spelling/grammar errors in your first sentence, so I corrected them.
[Edited by Lunchbox on 29-Apr-06 00:11] |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
15:13 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | @Nintendork: Technically, poor capitalization and spelling fall under the general realm of poor grammar, but it makes for a better argument to list them separately. |
Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
17:58 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | you know wat tho?
poor grammer i understand but poor spelling is part of internet life!
who wants to spend .25 more seconds than they hav to to push one more letter, plus it looks kewl. <<<lol
also reviews written by the author- you may want to read them first, because some of them (like mine on my Lonewarsdemo) are warning ppl not to waste their time with the game.
and wat better way is there to express your excitement for a kewl game with more than one exclamation point.
just one looks so... bland.
maybe you can stretch the rules. cus then nobodys gonna want to go on this site anymore if you fully enforse these rules.
and yes ppl who do that retarded stuff like adding numbers to works like h8 and sk8 shouldnt b able to have their stuff posted. but like mine, ppl can actually read.
so wat if there is an lol
or a ppl
in the review? like i said thats part of the internet experience. so many ppl do it, its now become a habit. and ppl CAN read it, so why enforce that?
cmon man!!!
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
21:25 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | It's not the occasional lol or mispelling that we're worried about, it's the ones that look more like encrypted ciphertext than actual, readable plaintext that we don't want.
"Poor spelling is part of internet life!". While it is unfortunately true that most people on the internet have the average grammar and spelling, there are two things I can think of that would be potentially wrong with this: 1) Why perpetuate the cycle? If everyone randomly started shooting themselves in the foot because it was "cool", doesn't mean we should conform to that. and 2) You have to remember, CG probably gets a good chunk of traffic that is neither internet- nor tech-savvy, so if they can't understand a review because it says "LoL tHiS gAmE iS bOrKeD aNd It Is TeH sUx!!!11!one", that confuses them and puts in their mind a bad image of CG, something the admins (and mods) work very hard to prevent.
"Who wants to spend .25 more seconds than they hav to to push one more letter, plus it looks kewl." For one, I, personally, gladly take the the extra minute amount of time to make sure I have little to no spelling/grammar errors because I know it makes me look more intelligent than someone who can't go 15 seconds without saying rofl and has half of his letters as numbers. Also, saying that it "looks [cool]" is merely an opinion, and I guarantee you not everyone thinks that same way.
"Also reviews written by the author- you may want to read them first, because some of them (like mine on my Lonewarsdemo) are warning ppl not to waste their time with the game." That's what the description box and the readme are for. If you want to say something about the game, put it their and not in a review. Reviews of your own game are, IMVHO, a bit haughty and pretentious. It's like painting a painting and then going on TV and pointing out all the good points for everyone in the nation to see.
"So wat if there is an lol, or a ppl in the review?" Again, like I said earlier, one "lol" or "ppl" here or there isn't going to make us turn the fires of hell on you. We're not super-sticklers, we just don't want unreadable junk in the place of what should be a well-thought-out piece. Not a whole novel, just a few intelligent, insightful comments. That's just me, though, but I believe I can say that I'm speaking for the admins in general when I say that. Actually, were it up to me, any "lol", "rofl", "lmao", "wtf", "omg", or any combination thereof would be filtered out. But that's just my personal vendetta.
(Last quote, I swear) "And wat better way is there to express your excitement for a kewl game with more than one exclamation point." With proper use of language, you can express your emotions better than any number of exclamation points ever could. |
Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 28 Apr 2006
23:03 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | aha
well...
im stuck
lol
well all i can say is that wat ive been doing, except for my author review, is all legal by your re-explanation. i thought barrett was going to go camando on us or something and totally become 12 grade english teacher reviewer.
but hes not
so im glad
and yes your right. those stupid reviews that are like encrypted are retarded. and well... kewl actually started because thats how i pronounce cool. sound it out and ull understand.
so i guess im fine
umm so wat do i do to fix my overview of my game so ppl will not waste their time on it? cus even tho its my first game- it was seriously crappy (i fixed it, but the fixed version got lost in the abyss that is my laptop and i accidentally put the original as the updated thing. or maybe i didnt idk.)
and also not very fun after a while
plus after trying to convert it little by little to xlib graphix, the coding got all mixed up and screwed up and the game stopped working so i scrapped the project.
so thats my little mini explanation of why i posted an author review.
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TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
07:10 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | http://calcgames.org/cgi-bin/files/files.cgi?ID=475
Review by Joe Hargrave II
-Terrible grammar
-Review is non-constructive
-The game is not even finished yet!!
:) I will check the rest of mine later, see if there are any other bad ones... |
Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
15:28 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | lol you dont want ur games looking bad, eh TIFreak???
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
18:58 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | >>totally become 12 grade english teacher reviewer.
Want me to be? I can be a very evil proofreader if needed.
[Edited by allynfolksjr on 30-Apr-06 03:59] |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
19:39 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Well in this case TI Freak, while grammar does suck we all know what, it does still bring out some point. The way I see it is that each review is approved on case by case basis. Most important thing should be its actualy worth to the users and that means it descrives the file and offers some clues as to why its either good or not so. While I see B's and Lunchbox's view on the grammar, I'd still do it on case per case basis. Not all people are fricking spelling bee's and all but obviously is grammar is so horrid that it's nearly impossible to read and it does not present anything close to a human language then yes, it belongs in the trash heap. Some reviews, we should not forget, are made by foreign folks so grammar may not be up to some of our standards but I think as long as context is useful it's okay to keep it. That's how I see this, just my two cents folks.
Edit by L: Z, I'm horrified! You spelled my name wrong! :P
[Edited by Lunchbox on 02-May-06 02:14]
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Zachary940
Wraith
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
19:52 GMT
Total Posts: 714 | If grammer and spelling errs cause reviews to be thrown out then how am i going to put my 2 cents in.
Lunchbox should know since he goes and fixis all my wonderfull errs
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Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 29 Apr 2006
20:42 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | umm allynfolksjr
thats ok
we dont need u to become that
it was more than not a figure of speech
...
actually i made it up but still
it was...
figuritave speech thats it
and i already threw my nickel in,
but it got shot down by TIfreak with his really really good points...
so im done with this argument...
and yet i still want to see how it unfolds...
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Barrett
Administrator
Posted: 1 May 2006
11:22 GMT
Total Posts: 1676 | Poor grammar as a result of non-native english speaking is just fine as long as the review is somewhat professional looking.
What I'm going for here is the "professionality" of the reviews. If it looks like it took the person 5 seconds to write the review, it will be deleted.
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-Barrett A |
Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 1 May 2006
16:05 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | alright
well thats cleared up.
i guess this discussions over.
unless u half-number, half english ppl wanna defend your
wIeRd wAy oF tYpInG w/#'s and symbols
like h8 and such
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 1 May 2006
22:03 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | No sticky caps, no leet. |
Hydralisk5201
Wraith
Posted: 2 May 2006
07:52 GMT
Total Posts: 576 | uh huh
:)
(someone should really close this topic i think its done)
(lol)
[Edited by Hydralisk5201 on 05-May-06 01:00]
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