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yeadnet
Probe
Posted: 13 Aug 2004
09:18 GMT
Total Posts: 7
can't choose!!! should i buy the ti-89 or the ti-89titanium... the ti-89 is like £50 cherper!!! but more memory on the other one.. what should i buy??? help!!!
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 13 Aug 2004
10:09 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Well, out where I like, they're the same price. :-)

But actually, the 89T comes with like 2.7mb of memory. If you want lots of apps and lots of games/programs, then the titanium is the way to go. But other than the memory, the calc's are fundemtially the same, except the 89T has a quartz chrystal (which means it has a clock).

Also, all ASM/C programs for the 89 are not compatible with the 89T, unless they're specially converted (and thats happening...).

So I guess it's up to you...
Barrett
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Posted: 13 Aug 2004
11:13 GMT
Total Posts: 1676
any 89 built today also has a quartz crystal. The only ones that did not were the old HW1's.

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allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 13 Aug 2004
12:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
Really? Hm, I guess I read the Hw1 specs...
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 13 Aug 2004
19:51 GMT
Total Posts: 958
89 TI is a larger pain to be running applications on though.
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 13 Aug 2004
20:25 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
All 89Ti gives you is more memory and a usb port. Though, TI managed to make it incompatible with 89 programs so all that extra memory is hardly worth it (at least at this point of time). If regular 89 is cheaper then go with it because you won't get that many 89 programs to run on the new calc yet. Besides, the new 89Ti's case is much larger than a regular 89 so its even bulkier. If you ask me, 89 has more than enough memory for games and other stuff unless you're a really hardcore gamer or something. I suggest you go with a regular 89.

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allynfolksjr
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Posted: 13 Aug 2004
20:44 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
(hits self in head)-D'oh, I forgot the USB port!
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 14 Aug 2004
11:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Jeez allyn how can you forget that? It's like the ONLY new thing that the new calcs sport that's actually useful and is a big advertisement thing. Personally, I just don't really like the new design seen on 84 series and the 89Ti. Ahh...I have already said everything I needed to so I'll stop here.

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allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 14 Aug 2004
14:13 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
I don't know...maybe because I use my graphlink with the 89T anyways... But still, it was a huge case of forgetting.
yeadnet
Probe
Posted: 15 Aug 2004
03:40 GMT
Total Posts: 7
thanks for the help.. i think i'll go for the 89T because most of the equipment i use is for usb ports and if the 89 doesn't have that i've got a problem... the reasen why the 89 is cheaper is because i can get one used..
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 15 Aug 2004
12:24 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
Well, for TI-89 you'd need to get a USB link cable which sometimes actually does come along with the calc. The 89Ti is basically the same but you don't need any special cable but a standard minu-usb. In general it may be better to go with a newer calc but due to its incompatibility with the 89 software you'll be limited to a handful of programs instead of several thousands that are for regular 89 (that is ofcourse until someone makes some sort of emulator or something).

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spiral
Wraith
Posted: 15 Aug 2004
15:42 GMT
Total Posts: 958
so what is the USB port good for? Can you attach peripherals or does it just make transfering games/programs faster?
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 15 Aug 2004
16:08 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
faster, mostly. about 75% faster than the I/O port, but the USB is alot more crankier to use.
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 15 Aug 2004
23:47 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
Thats TI for you. Speaking of which, TI sounds a lot like MS. Hear me out. They provide nice buggy software with a little higher than basic software and then the power users fix the messy OS and make a lot of apps to make up for short commings. Same could be said for Apple except I've run accros a much fewer amount of bugs (10% or less)
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 16 Aug 2004
10:06 GMT
Total Posts: 310
>Though, TI managed to make it incompatible with 89 programs so all that
>extra memory is hardly worth it (at least at this point of time).

Such a typical attitude. Don't go with the better hardware or AMS version just because it broke the assembly games for a short time until the programmers out there can update the kernels and stuff. Which, AFAIK, has already happened for the 89Ti. The HW3 patch and the Iceburg kernel are out there.
zkostik
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Posted: 16 Aug 2004
10:37 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
They didn't really break 83+ support on 84 why do that for 89Ti? It's not like they've added that much stuff to it anyway. It seems to be quite often that newer AMS breaks something. Oh well, as time passes things will get ported onto the newer calc as it happened when 83+ came out...

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yeadnet
Probe
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
04:59 GMT
Total Posts: 7
well i've got the ti-89t now.. so isn't there any games for it jet.. if not cant you use voyage 200 games on it?? its the same manuel for both of them!
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 18 Aug 2004
09:50 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
The 89T and v200 have different screens, thus making the two games incompatiable.
Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 18 Aug 2004
09:58 GMT
Total Posts: 310
I doubt they're going out of their way to break assembly games with new hardware and OS versions. They're just not going out of their way to not break them either.
Digital
Guardian
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Posted: 18 Aug 2004
23:09 GMT
Total Posts: 1051
Actually allyn, in memory the 89's screen is 240x128, the sam esize as the V200's and 92+'s.
allynfolksjr
Administrator
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Posted: 18 Aug 2004
23:27 GMT
Total Posts: 1892
are you sure? The 89 and 89T have 160x100 screens. The v200 has a 240x 128 screen, as does the 92+. According to ticalc's calculator refrence, that is.

Hm, looking at the ticalc information the 92, I didn't know you could upgrade a 92 --> 92+ with a module. Interesting.
zkostik
Carrier
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Posted: 19 Aug 2004
09:14 GMT
Total Posts: 2486
He's referring to the display memory buffer. It's the same size as that of 92,92+,v200 even though the actualy screen resolution is smaller.

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