| Author | Comment |
nightcrawlerajm
Probe
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
13:33 GMT
Total Posts: 2 | Im thinking about buying a calculator but i cant decide on which one to buy. Im in the 8th grade right now but will soon be in 9th grade. Right now im schedule to be in geometry honors but i might be in either AP calculus or AP statistics.I would really need your help to decide which calculator i should buy. Thanks... |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
13:55 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Get a TI-86! It has calculaus stuff and a built in algerbra solver. Plus, it's way cheaper than a 89. |
nightcrawlerajm
Probe
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
14:03 GMT
Total Posts: 2 | I dont care about spending the extra money for a better calc though. If you were rich which one would you buy.Im also going to put games on it and other programs. |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
16:48 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | 89t all the way mate or a regular 89 so that you don't need to convert progs to run as you would with 89t. 89/t is better for games, math and pretty much everything else. though, do learn math yourself and not let your 89/t do it for you. it has built in pretty print and lotsa math functions so just don't slack off if you chose to get an 89/t.
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Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
16:54 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | If you're getting it for high school, get an 84+ SE. The 89/Ti has stuff you won't need for 4 years, and some schools and standardized tests don't allow them. You'd be much better off with the 84+SE for now. You can always get an 89Ti when you take Calculus, if you need it. (Which you don't.) |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
18:10 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | The 89 actually has many functions that the 83x series does not that i haved used as far back as Algebra II. Yes, listen to Z and get a TI-89 titanium. And while you're at it, you might as well order it from here (Click store on the links frame in the left, and go to calculator store). |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
18:31 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Granted, all those features are useful, but if the school is smart they'd not allow anything higher than the 86. Get and 84+SE and you're guaranteed to have a capable calculator that will do most everything you need until Calculus. You get an 89Ti and you might have to go get an 84+SE afterall when the school doesn't let you use it. Better safe than sorry. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
18:42 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Personally, I don't believe that anyone below Calculus needs or is even to their benefit to have a 89. If you're just now going into geometry, chances are that if you decide to take classes like calc, you could always upgrade, after all, the 84s are made for high school math classes. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
21:09 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | AP/SAT tests and every math class i've eever seen/heard of allow any calc TI-89 or below (number-wise, they don't like the 92's keyboard). If, hypothetically, you don't get things very easily, the 83/84+ interface is easier to use, but if you don't mind a bit of a challenge, the 89 rox in terms of math, hardware, and, of course, games :) . |
BullFrog
Wraith
Posted: 15 Apr 2005
21:12 GMT
Total Posts: 623 | From the sound of things, you'll be going into geometry this upcoming school year. Correct? You really don't need a graphing calculator until the end of Algebra II or even precalculus. Best bet is to buy a $10 or $15 scientific calculator now and wait until you'll actually need a graphing calculator to get one.
Or, if your school does so, you can rent one from them...
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Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
06:59 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | What I hate in my area about the TI-89 is that it's more expensive than the Nintendo DS (the DS cost $200 and the 89 cost $230) :(
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Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
09:25 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Unless those 2's should be 1's, you got ripped off big time Kevin. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
09:46 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Even converting CAD to USD shows you got ripped of big time, especially on the 89. |
Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
13:28 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | I live in Québec (Canada) and everything is more expensive here
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TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
13:56 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | have you tried buying directly from TI?? Or you could have someone you trust buy it here, and ship it to you... |
JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
15:37 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | CG has a calc store. :) |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 16 Apr 2005
16:47 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Ah, I see, you meant Canadian $$ right Kevin? (~$0.70 american to $1 canadian) That's still a tad pricey... |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
02:58 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | I've found the 83-series is better for statistics though. I'm not even sure if the 89 can do it because I haven't found a lot of the distribution stuff built-in. The 89 makes integration much easier though. |
korkow
Ultralisk
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
08:55 GMT
Total Posts: 465 | Hmm...I have a 89 AND a 92+, but I'm merely in Algebra I ! (The stupid teachers won't let me move up any farther). Anyways, if you are not very good at figuring computer things out very easily, I'd recommemnd a 86 or below (Good ol' z80! Never fails you) |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
09:20 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | You shouldn't even need (nor be allowed to use) a grapher until Algebra II... IMHO... We weren't, and we were just fine. |
greenorange
Goliath
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
14:17 GMT
Total Posts: 199 | My school didn't like my 92+. Although most of them are calculator idiots, the teachers thought I was surfing the internet for answers, and I almost got in trouble. So I use my 86. However, the 68k series are awesome for complex math (say integration, equation solving, limit solving...) |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
16:15 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Of course they thought you were surfing the inteernet Greenorange! What Brick-like, 240*160px b/w screen, half-a-decade old (at least) piece of machine can't surf the inteernet? |
zkostik
Carrier
Posted: 17 Apr 2005
16:20 GMT
Total Posts: 2486 | Only thing I'd add is that you'll have to figure out your 89 on your own or with our help of course as most teachers/text books are based only on 83 series (84 is same thing). I'd have to side with Andy that it may be best to get an 84 however 89 could prove a better investment overall. You really don't need 89 or a graphing calc until Alg2 and even there it's just to speed long calculations up (or for convenience over sci calcs). Though, make sure you don't depend too much on your calc or use its advanced funcs in case you get an 89 as it can do about anything for you and will even use pretty print to show its answers. Choice is yours of course, just weigh your needs and wants and get a calc that seems best. It would of course be nice if you order it from our store (Office Depot) as CG would get a small percent of it which would help us out.
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PogoDaMonkey
Dragoon
Posted: 18 Apr 2005
04:08 GMT
Total Posts: 72 | I'm an 89T user, and call me biased, but the 89T rocks. It has much more RAM and Flash ROM than any other calc that i know of, and can run most of the games with a little Ghostbusting and PreOS. Although they let me use the 89T in class, I'm not allowed to use it on the SOL/SAT, etc, and you may want to get acquanted with the inferior funstions of an 83, 84 or (somewhat better) 86. Of course i dont know much about the operation of the other calcs, but I prefer the 89T. |
Kevin
Guardian
Posted: 18 Apr 2005
06:02 GMT
Total Posts: 1390 | The only thing I hate about the 68k calcs is that there is not enough RPGs avaliable for download, most of them are crappy unfinished Zelda demos, just check this page and notice the big difference between the number of good TI-83+ RPG and TI-89 RPGs http://omnimaga.earthforge.com/archive.html
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Ray Kremer
Ultralisk
Posted: 18 Apr 2005
11:48 GMT
Total Posts: 310 | Read this:
http://www.technicalc.org/tifaq/?p3.htm#5.1I've found the 83-series is better for statistics though. I'm not even sure if the 89 can do it because I haven't found a lot of the distribution stuff built-in. There's a flash app that gives you most if not all of that stats stuff that the 83 does. |
PogoDaMonkey
Dragoon
Posted: 19 Apr 2005
04:13 GMT
Total Posts: 72 | Only reason theres no good RPG's out is I'm not up to par on C programming (just kidding). The other reason is most people that come out with a demo dont usually finish with the rest of the game, they get distracted or something. Also the 68k's are relatively new compared to the 83, so people need to get it and get adjusted to it. Most of the time they just forget about it or get bored with it (same with me on Starcraft maps;D)
Really, its night's choice, we are just here to bias him. = Ð |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 19 Apr 2005
06:29 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | >> Also the 68k's are relatively new compared to the 83, so people need to get it and get adjusted to it.
WRONG! The 89 is a year OLDER than the 83+. So is the 92+. If anything, people would still be "getting used to" the 83+.
/edit: Well, yeah, the 83 itself is 2 years older than the 89... But I think that's beside the point. Ah, screw it. *STFUs*
[Edited by Andy on 19-Apr-05 16:53] |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 19 Apr 2005
14:59 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Yeah, the 68k's are older than the 83x series, but theey are not for n00bs by a long shot. |
PogoDaMonkey
Dragoon
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
04:06 GMT
Total Posts: 72 | Yeah, L got the poin i was trying to make. The 68k's are more expensive and use something other than ASM which everyone had gotten used to with the 83's...so they basically gotta relearn another language and keep the two seperated. Though C is easier than ASM... kinda like the Basic of the programming world. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
05:08 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | Not really. The 84+SE costs the same as the 89/TI.... And don't give me this bs that you can't use the same language on both series, of course you can't! The processor is different! Even if you used a small-devices C compiler for the z80's you'd have to rewrite your code to use it on an 89. |
spiral
Wraith
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
13:56 GMT
Total Posts: 958 | well java can run on multiple platforms. It's not so hard for interpreted languages, I doubt it would be hard to port TI-basic from 83 to 89. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
15:15 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | He was (as was I) referring to the assembly language. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
21:07 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | >>Even if you used a small-devices C compiler for the z80's you'd have to rewrite your code to use it on an 89
Not true, you'd only have to force the compiler to translate differently to account for the diff's in the assembly languages. |
Andy
Administrator
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
21:19 GMT
Total Posts: 939 | I'm referring to the different screen sizes and key codes, not to mention how variables are managed. In fact, anything other than a simple text input/output program would probably need heavy changes. |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 20 Apr 2005
22:01 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | ah yes, i forgot to account for the other hardware differentiations. pardon my moment of n00bishness. |
PogoDaMonkey
Dragoon
Posted: 21 Apr 2005
04:06 GMT
Total Posts: 72 | Overall its your choice. If you want good graphics and decent games, get the 89/89T. If you want a bunch of games with okay graphics and larger pixels, get the 83/84. We kinda mixed in the talk about programming languages, but that is important if you want to program for either. |
allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 21 Apr 2005
08:25 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Really, I think the math needs are much more important than anything else, including games. Running a game on a calculator is a nice extra, and truthfully, I rarely play a game on mine. |
