| Author | Comment |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
19:35 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | O.K. I know you guys are busy but i just csmr up with a GREAT program idea, but it is out of my range of skills. I think someone should make a 20 Questions program on a calc. Like I said its out of my range of skills. I think a BASIC, or even Asm, would be to large for a regular 83+... So correct me if I'm wrong but Flash would be an appropriate style of programmingm, I mean if a Bubble Bobble clone can fit surely a 20 Questions program would fit... One last thing would a 20 Questions program use matricies? |
haveacalc
Guardian
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
19:39 GMT
Total Posts: 1111 | It wouldn't be that hard if it was 2-player. One player could guess, and the other player could say yes or no. In that case, the program could just count down from 20.
[Edited by haveacalc on 26-Dec-05 04:40]
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wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
19:47 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | thanx but wouldn't they just write stuff down? I'm talking about a fully computerized (calculatorised?) one, like the hand held.
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haveacalc
Guardian
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
19:49 GMT
Total Posts: 1111 | Yes, that would take longer.
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threefingeredguy
Ghost
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
20:08 GMT
Total Posts: 1189 | I played that 20 Questions handheld at the mall, it got "dalmation" in 17 questions. Friggin incredible. I don't see any role matrices can play in this, but I do know that it would be a very, very big program.
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ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
20:21 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | It hardly even seems like it would be worth it, because those 20Q things have thousands of words and info on each of those words, to come up the right answer. Besides, for around 20 bucks, you can buy one of those 20Q things anyways. |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
20:26 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | well yea u could buy one but, you wouldn't be able to take it to school for when you have free time
well by a matrix i mean like after asking the 20 questions like [7,4,3,2,1,2,2,2,3,4,2,1,4,3,2,4,1,2,2,2]=dalmation, for example (1=unknown 2=no 3=yes 4=sometimes 5=animal 6=vegetable 7=mineral 8=other 9=Unknown (main selection))
would that work? well not the example but somthing like it.
[Edited by wusup on 26-Dec-05 05:31] |
ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
20:33 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | Except that there are literally thousands of common words in the English language, are there are only 10 matrices on the 83/84/+ series, so it is seriously lacking the amount of variables it would need. |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 25 Dec 2005
20:37 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | true. well would it be possible to program something like it for 84se cuz now that i think of it it would be way too big for an 83+. |
trackstar6053
Marine
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
07:06 GMT
Total Posts: 38 | but they each have the same Ram dont they? The 84 se has a ton more archive though. But i dont see how that would help. |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
08:04 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | If it's a flsh app it would not have to be put into ram to be run. You would just run it out of the archive. |
CoffmanRunner
Ultralisk
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
11:43 GMT
Total Posts: 235 | correct me if i'm wrong...
Flash doesn't use matrix's it may use something else like it but...
Are you talking Flash or Basic or Asm right now?
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allynfolksjr
Administrator
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
12:58 GMT
Total Posts: 1892 | Has anyone else picked up on the topic of this thread yet? |
TI Freak
Probe
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
13:03 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | lol, sorta. Someone wants 20 questions put on the 83+/84+ line of calcs. Then they are deciding how to do it...
I could make a program ask 20 random questions from a list of questions with answers, that would be fairly easy...
Blast, 3 more posts till I am 1337... :D
[Edited by TI Freak on 26-Dec-05 22:04] |
Lunchbox
Carrier
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
21:02 GMT
Total Posts: 2007 | Just fyi, asm and flash are the same language, but flash just takes up an arbitrary amount of space whereas asm doesn't. |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
21:24 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | Thanx L i didn't know that... But allyn is right. we need to get back on topicwhat im asking is if when ne of you guys have time could you try to make somthing like it or are you all to busy. |
bcherry
Dragoon
Posted: 26 Dec 2005
23:20 GMT
Total Posts: 61 | it is a very hard thing to undertake any programming task, and this is perhaps one of the harder ones. The reason why creating a program like 20q, either the online or portable version, would be challenging is that those are not programmed the way you would typically think of approaching the task. The programmer did not make a database of objects and answer the questions for each one. The way it works is by creating a neural network that links responses to the various objects, and the network is created by playing it. The game learns as you play, it started out with no knowledge and as it was played it slowly gathered connections and now works very well. This could not be put onto a calculator because a programmer could not spend enough time teaching it.
Anyways, it would directly conflict with the 20q portable and would recieve a fat lawsuit. |
CoffmanRunner
Ultralisk
Posted: 27 Dec 2005
05:28 GMT
Total Posts: 235 | I belive there are 3 main types of prgms..
1. Learning programs - prgms that serve little to no purpose and are made only so the programer can get more acquainted with commands and how to do things smaller in code (ex: intead of PxlOn(,PxlOn(,PxlOn. you would put For(Z,1,3 PxlOn(X,X End) this type of program is almost always worthless
2. Programs that you already how to do it but it will take alot of work (ex: Rock Paper Scissors - you know how you would do it but it would not serve much purpose because it is pretty easy to do)
3. A comb. of both a program that you learn as you go and will take a lot of work and people will enjoy playing it (ex: pokemon purple>TI-Freak)
I think that this program is a type 3 program i knda understand how to do it but it would take a ton of work and there may be a few things that i don't fully understand
Does this make any sense or it is just stupid?
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JcCorp
Probe
Posted: 27 Dec 2005
05:49 GMT
Total Posts:
Edit | I played a 20Q thing. It couldn't guess any word I came up with. I think I used the word "box." |
wusup
Dragoon
Posted: 27 Dec 2005
07:38 GMT
Total Posts: 75 | @bCherry Ahhhhhhhhhhhh good point... Then what about TI Freaks Pokemon Purple??? |
ryantmer
Wraith
Posted: 27 Dec 2005
10:54 GMT
Total Posts: 692 | Or you could just call it 21q... But they'd still probably sue the pants off you (figuratively). |
